Unofficial 2012/2013 Armchair GM

[Corn Flake]

I'd move him and give the time to Gardiner. The return should be pretty good as well....

You would have to agree to have Gardiner play on his off side in that case, which is never a good idea for an up and coming d-man.

Gardiner plays the left side which means Phaneuf, Gunarsson or Fraser are moving to make room.  At the moment, that's not happening.

 

[Omallley]

I don't believe you.

You're all lying! Because that's just goofy to say that when guys like Toews, Hossa, Datsyuk, etc. exist.

It's Doug Maclean. It's well within his level of insanity.

You're still dead to me.

;D ;D

Is it that hard to accept that we have good players, finally.

Not agreeing that Clarke MacArthur is the best two way forward in the league doesn't have much to do with accepting that the Leafs "have good players", does it?

 

[Champ Kind]

I don't believe you.

You're all lying! Because that's just goofy to say that when guys like Toews, Hossa, Datsyuk, etc. exist.

It's Doug Maclean. It's well within his level of insanity.

You're still dead to me.

;D ;D

Is it that hard to accept that we have good players, finally.

Nutman, come on.  A) No one in the thread said the Leafs don't have good players.  B) There's a difference - actually, there's miles and miles of differrence - between saying MacArthur is a good player who's playing well and saying he's the best defensive forward "in the league". 

I think you should seriously watch Detroit or Chicago play someone other than the Leafs. 

*EDIT: sorry, O'Malley, I was a bit trigger happy, I guess.

 

[The Red Polar Bear]

Gardiner plays the left side which means Phaneuf, Gunarsson or Fraser are moving to make room.  At the moment, that's not happening.

Wouldn't just pairing up Phaneuf and Gunnarsson again solve that dilemma?  Unless your point is that RC just won't be doing that, which is a different argument.

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

Gardiner plays the left side which means Phaneuf, Gunarsson or Fraser are moving to make room.  At the moment, that's not happening.

Wouldn't just pairing up Phaneuf and Gunnarsson again solve that dilemma?  Unless your point is that RC just won't be doing that, which is a different argument.

Yes, Dion's best performance statistically has come when paired with Gunnarsson, it seems like a no-brainer to me to play them together if they're insistent on Dion eating the lion's share of minutes on D.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Gardiner plays the left side which means Phaneuf, Gunarsson or Fraser are moving to make room.  At the moment, that's not happening.

Wouldn't just pairing up Phaneuf and Gunnarsson again solve that dilemma?  Unless your point is that RC just won't be doing that, which is a different argument.

Yes, Dion's best performance statistically has come when paired with Gunnarsson, it seems like a no-brainer to me to play them together if they're insistent on Dion eating the lion's share of minutes on D.

Nah, makes more sense to drag him down with an AHL d-man.

 

[L K]

Gardiner plays the left side which means Phaneuf, Gunarsson or Fraser are moving to make room.  At the moment, that's not happening.

Wouldn't just pairing up Phaneuf and Gunnarsson again solve that dilemma?  Unless your point is that RC just won't be doing that, which is a different argument.

Yes, Dion's best performance statistically has come when paired with Gunnarsson, it seems like a no-brainer to me to play them together if they're insistent on Dion eating the lion's share of minutes on D.

Nah, makes more sense to drag him down with an AHL d-man.

Watching Kostka fumble the puck every game is getting painful, and while I like Holzer, he really needs to have his minutes cut.  I think he's shown enough to be a capable NHLer going forward, but nowhere near the top pairing.

 

[Zee]

Gardiner plays the left side which means Phaneuf, Gunarsson or Fraser are moving to make room.  At the moment, that's not happening.

Wouldn't just pairing up Phaneuf and Gunnarsson again solve that dilemma?  Unless your point is that RC just won't be doing that, which is a different argument.

Yes, Dion's best performance statistically has come when paired with Gunnarsson, it seems like a no-brainer to me to play them together if they're insistent on Dion eating the lion's share of minutes on D.

Nah, makes more sense to drag him down with an AHL d-man.

Watching Kostka fumble the puck every game is getting painful, and while I like Holzer, he really needs to have his minutes cut.  I think he's shown enough to be a capable NHLer going forward, but nowhere near the top pairing.

It boggles the mind that a veteran like Liles is sitting out while we have to watch Holzer make mistakes game after game. Even if they have no plans for Liles and want to move him, at least play him and hopefully some team will see he still has something to give so you can deal him.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Gardiner plays the left side which means Phaneuf, Gunarsson or Fraser are moving to make room.  At the moment, that's not happening.

Wouldn't just pairing up Phaneuf and Gunnarsson again solve that dilemma?  Unless your point is that RC just won't be doing that, which is a different argument.

I think your second statement is what we should be focusing on here. Some coaches really care about which side of the ice a player plays on, some don't. For instance, if you look at Boston's roster all four of their left-wingers are left-handed, all four of their right-wingers are right-handed, they have two lefty centres and two right centres, 3 left handed defencemen and 3 right handed defencemen. Then you look at a team like Detroit who recently played a game with 6 left-handed defencemen.

Carlyle seems to be more in the Boston camp here, which is partly why Lupul had such a difficult time cracking his top-6 in Anaheim because he had Perry and Selanne ahead of him on the right-wing and Lupul was right-handed. I don't think he's going to force Lupul back to the right side anytime soon but it does seem as though his preference is to not play guys on their off-wing. Particularly on defence. He's even forced Phaneuf back to the left-side for most of the season even though Dion has played on the right (his off-wing) for his entire Leafs career.

 

[Corn Flake]

With Getzlaf off the market....

Bozak.. let him walk for anything over $3 mil.  Going to cost too much not not be a true #1.

Kadri is RFA .. he's going to eat up $3.5 mil.  Peg him as the #1 centre going into next year.

3rd centre... McClement or Colborne.

4th centre.. re-sign Steckel or find alternate.

Go all in on Perry if he makes it to UFA (IMO, Ducks won't sign him)... may require a pre-emptive trade after the season is over though.  He will be looking for the 8 year deal.

 

[louisstamos]

Perry - Kadri - JVR
Lupul - Bozak/Weiss - Kessel
Kulemin - Grabovski - Frattin
Komarov - McClement - McLaren
Colborne
Hamilton

Gardiner - Phaneuf
Gunnarsson - Holzer
Fraser - Franson
Blacker?
Ranger?

Reimer
Scrivens/back-up

...have no idea how that would look cap-wise, though.

I kinda wish I went to more Marlies games during the lockout.  I could have "I barely know her!" to every defenseman.

 

[Champ Kind]

With Getzlaf off the market....

Bozak.. let him walk for anything over $3 mil.  Going to cost too much not not be a true #1.

Kadri is RFA .. he's going to eat up $3.5 mil.  Peg him as the #1 centre going into next year.

3rd centre... McClement or Colborne.

4th centre.. re-sign Steckel or find alternate.

Go all in on Perry if he makes it to UFA (IMO, Ducks won't sign him)... may require a pre-emptive trade after the season is over though.  He will be looking for the 8 year deal.

100+ on your view with a few friendly amendments:

Colborne on the third line (provided he can do it) and McClement on the fourth.  If Colborne can't do it McClement goes to the third and hopefully Steckle is around to fit in there.

Go all-in on Perry and trade Kessel.  Look, I don't think there;'s cap room for both, especially as Kessel heads into his UFA payday.  The question needs to be asked: who would you rather commit $7.5 - $8.0 per season on?  I like Phil Kessel, I really do.  But I wouldn't sign my name on an 8 year, $64M contract for him.  I would for Corey Perry.

 

[Britishbulldog]

With Getzlaf off the market....

Bozak.. let him walk for anything over $3 mil.  Going to cost too much not not be a true #1.

Kadri is RFA .. he's going to eat up $3.5 mil.  Peg him as the #1 centre going into next year.

3rd centre... McClement or Colborne.

4th centre.. re-sign Steckel or find alternate.

Go all in on Perry if he makes it to UFA (IMO, Ducks won't sign him)... may require a pre-emptive trade after the season is over though.  He will be looking for the 8 year deal.

Where's Grabovski and his $5.5 MIL contract?

Also I was thinking the player had to be on the roster at the trade deadline to qualify for an 8 year deal.  I think Perry can only sign for a 7 year deal with a new team.

Maybe Getzlaf was just a sign and trade....I didn't hear about any NTC....  ;D

 

[Tigger]

FORWARDS
Joffrey Lupul ($5.250m) / Nazem Kadri ($3.500m) / Phil Kessel ($5.400m)
Van Riemsdyk ($4.250m) / Grabovski ($5.500m) / Corey Perry ($8.000m)
Nikolai Kulemin ($2.800m) / Joe Colborne ($0.925m) / Matt Frattin ($0.925m)
Leo Komarov ($1.000m) / Jay McClement ($1.500m) / Kyle Chipchura ($0.875m)
Frazer McLaren ($0.750m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Carl Gunnarsson ($2.500m) / Dion Phaneuf ($6.500m)
Jake Gardiner ($1.117m) / Cody Franson ($2.500m)
Mark Fraser ($0.850m) / Korbinian Holzer ($0.788m)
Morgan Rielly ($1.775m) /
GOALTENDERS
James Reimer ($1.800m)
Ben Scrivens ($0.613m)
OTHER
Buyout: Darcy Tucker ($1.000m)
Buyout: Colby Armstrong ($1.000m)
RETAINED SALARY TRANSACTIONS (0.130% of upper limit)
Mike Komisarek ($0.045m?1.0%) John-Michael Liles ($0.039m?1.0%)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $62,700,417; BONUSES: $1,150,000
CAP SPACE (24-man roster): $2,749,583

I don't know if Colborne is ready for that role but it would be nice if he was, MacArthur I'm not fond of losing but he and Bozak are gone in that scenario and of course it's likely that Orr could be retained too given how much he's apparently liked by Carlyle. Sign Perry and Chipchura as ufa's, Komi bought out ( likely ) and Liles traded if possible, if not then bought out as well.

 

[Chev-boyar-sky]

FORWARDS
Joffrey Lupul ($5.250m) / Nazem Kadri ($3.500m) / Phil Kessel ($5.400m)
Van Riemsdyk ($4.250m) / Grabovski ($5.500m) / Corey Perry ($8.000m)
Nikolai Kulemin ($2.800m) / Joe Colborne ($0.925m) / Matt Frattin ($0.925m)
Leo Komarov ($1.000m) / Jay McClement ($1.500m) / Kyle Chipchura ($0.875m)
Frazer McLaren ($0.750m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Carl Gunnarsson ($2.500m) / Dion Phaneuf ($6.500m)
Jake Gardiner ($1.117m) / Cody Franson ($2.500m)
Mark Fraser ($0.850m) / Korbinian Holzer ($0.788m)
Morgan Rielly ($1.775m) /
GOALTENDERS
James Reimer ($1.800m)
Ben Scrivens ($0.613m)
OTHER
Buyout: Darcy Tucker ($1.000m)
Buyout: Colby Armstrong ($1.000m)
RETAINED SALARY TRANSACTIONS (0.130% of upper limit)
Mike Komisarek ($0.045m?1.0%) John-Michael Liles ($0.039m?1.0%)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $62,700,417; BONUSES: $1,150,000
CAP SPACE (24-man roster): $2,749,583

I don't know if Colborne is ready for that role but it would be nice if he was, MacArthur I'm not fond of losing but he and Bozak are gone in that scenario and of course it's likely that Orr could be retained too given how much he's apparently liked by Carlyle. Sign Perry and Chipchura as ufa's, Komi bought out ( likely ) and Liles traded if possible, if not then bought out as well.

I think Colborne is ready (if healthy). IMO he's a legit prospect with superior vision and passing abilities. The comparisons to Thornton (lite) I think are valid.

When healthy he's shown a solid skill set. He'd be a good 3rd line scoring center. I also think he'd be dynamite on the PP with any of JVR/Kessel/Lupul/Perry.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Which of those top-3 lines is the shutdown group though? You can't use the McClement line for that because even though the personnel might be suited for it there won't be enough ice-time to spread around for the other 3 lines.

 

[Tigger]

Fair observation Carlton, I suppose you could look at a third line with McClement centering instead of Colborne in that fashion, not sure what it means for Joe, still.

I guess I'm coming from the notion that you need three lines going for offense in today's game and hope they can also provide enough defense while they're at it, Joe is also an unknown at the nhl level there.

In theory you could look at moving JVR down and Kulemin up?  :-\

 

[princedpw]

Which of those top-3 lines is the shutdown group though? You can't use the McClement line for that because even though the personnel might be suited for it there won't be enough ice-time to spread around for the other 3 lines.

Without any extra information, I would put out the Van Riemsdyk / Grabovski / Perry line against the other team's best line.  For defensive zone draws, I might swap Mcclement in for Colbourne when necessary.  Basically, that's a very strong set of wingers.  I'm sure the coach would experiment to see which combinations are most productive.

 

[caver]

Too many on D, too many forwards... this is a team begging for a trade. C'mon Nonis !

 

[caver]

MacArthur and a d-man to New Jersey for Clarkson. Clear some room and add a winger with grit !