Unofficial 2013-2014 Armchair GM Thread

[armche123]

I thought Clitsome would have been a decent depth guy for us, however....

@SCGscott 10h

Grant Clitsome (@GClitsome) has opted to avoid UFA and return to @NHLJets agreeing to a 3 yr. deal worth $6.2m at an AAV of $2.066m #Jets
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I would have liked his play on the Leafs. Great price for an underrated player IMO

 

[cw]

Roy would be the higher risk higher reward choice. His playmaking ability could mesh incredibly well with Kessel, but Weiss would be the lower risk, safer choice who probably won't reach lofty point totals but likely plays a more consistent game and less of a health risk.

I'm really hoping for a Stastny trade today to the Leafs. I think today would be the day to do it, you know, like this morning before noon...
I'd be most happy with that option on the top line.

Read yesterday that since Sakic & Roy took over, the notion of moving Stastny has cooled.

FYI, Joe Sakic played a few seasons for the Avs late in his career with Paul and early in his career, with his father, Peter. Aside from those who played with the Howes, I would guess that's fairly unusual. But with that kind of history, I would think Joe would know Paul and what he's capable of pretty well.

 

[BlueWhiteBlood]

FYI, Joe Sakic played a few seasons for the Avs late in his career with Paul and early in his career, with his father, Peter. Aside from those who played with the Howes, I would guess that's fairly unusual. But with that kind of history, I would think Joe would know Paul and what he's capable of pretty well.

I didn't even think of that stuff. I know the history, but it never crossed my mind that that would be a deciding factor.

I do think Paul needs a different/ new start someplace else and the Av's a in a position to definitely move a center. So I hoping that what you read isn't accurate, even though it does make a lot of sense in that there is history there.

Maybe they're going to sign him long term next year, but I don't feel that to be the case with Dushene, O'Rielly and now McKinnon there. Sakic said he envisions Dushene #1 and McKinnon #2 or at least separated on the top two lines. He didn't even mention Stastny, so who knows?

 

[Corn Flake]

Roy would be the higher risk higher reward choice. His playmaking ability could mesh incredibly well with Kessel, but Weiss would be the lower risk, safer choice who probably won't reach lofty point totals but likely plays a more consistent game and less of a health risk.

I'm really hoping for a Stastny trade today to the Leafs. I think today would be the day to do it, you know, like this morning before noon...
I'd be most happy with that option on the top line.

Read yesterday that since Sakic & Roy took over, the notion of moving Stastny has cooled.

FYI, Joe Sakic played a few seasons for the Avs late in his career with Paul and early in his career, with his father, Peter. Aside from those who played with the Howes, I would guess that's fairly unusual. But with that kind of history, I would think Joe would know Paul and what he's capable of pretty well.

True, but Sakic also had a close connection to Seth Jones and he didn't choose him at the draft.  He made the right hockey decision, IMO.

In this case, I would think a better hockey choice for the Avs and for Stastny is to move him elsewhere given the log jam at centre, the size of his contract and that they could address other glaring needs by trading him.

 

[Corn Flake]

Roy would be the higher risk higher reward choice. His playmaking ability could mesh incredibly well with Kessel, but Weiss would be the lower risk, safer choice who probably won't reach lofty point totals but likely plays a more consistent game and less of a health risk.

I'm really hoping for a Stastny trade today to the Leafs. I think today would be the day to do it, you know, like this morning before noon...
I'd be most happy with that option on the top line.

Wait... what happens today at noon? I'm out of the loop on all the new CBA dates and such.

 

[Kin]

True, but Sakic also had a close connection to Seth Jones and he didn't choose him at the draft.

He did? I mean, I heard the story of him telling Seth's dad to get his kids skating lessons but it wasn't like they were close or anything(Sakic didn't know who Popeye Jones was, by accounts). Certainly not to the extent of playing with him or his father.

 

[BlueWhiteBlood]

Wait... what happens today at noon? I'm out of the loop on all the new CBA dates and such.

Last $100 waiver chance to buyout a player, unless they can waive that clause.

 

[cw]

Wait... what happens today at noon? I'm out of the loop on all the new CBA dates and such.

Last $100 waiver chance to buyout a player, unless they can waive that clause.

1 hour ago
@TSNBobMcKenzie: Correction: Players being bought out can be put on unconditional waivers today or tomorrow, not just today.

2 hours ago
@TSNBobMcKenzie: Players who have No Move Clauses, and therefore able to block waivers, can be bought out without going on waivers (i.e. Komisarek in TOR).

 

[Zee]

Can't wait for free agency day to finally have some questions answered and see how this Leafs team is shaping up for the fall.

 

[BlueWhiteBlood]

Wait... what happens today at noon? I'm out of the loop on all the new CBA dates and such.

Last $100 waiver chance to buyout a player, unless they can waive that clause.

1 hour ago
@TSNBobMcKenzie: Correction: Players being bought out can be put on unconditional waivers today or tomorrow, not just today.

2 hours ago
@TSNBobMcKenzie: Players who have No Move Clauses, and therefore able to block waivers, can be bought out without going on waivers (i.e. Komisarek in TOR).

Good to know.

 

[Frank E]

So does anyone think the Leafs will overpay for Clarkson?

 

[Leafaholic99]

So does anyone think the Leafs will overpay for Clarkson?

naw, mostly because they won't get him, he will sign elsewhere, Winnipeg would be my guess.

 

[Kin]

So does anyone think the Leafs will overpay for Clarkson?

If you're asking if I think the Leafs will sign him the answer is no but, on the off-chance they do they'll definitely have to overpay him.

 

[bustaheims]

So does anyone think the Leafs will overpay for Clarkson?

I sure hope not. I also don't think he's a priority for the Leafs, so, by the time they feel they may want to get serious about him, he may be too far along with another team to get anything done.

 

[cw]

So does anyone think the Leafs will overpay for Clarkson?

I've seen it reported that he's seeking $6-6.5 mil/season on a lengthy deal. I hope they don't do that.

The guys that bang tend to have a shorter useful shelf life. There are exceptions to every "rule" but we've seen that with Wendel Clark, Tucker, Corson and Colby Armstrong as examples. They hit 30 or so and they're not the same player - even though they might put up some points.

This team could certainly use a guy like Clarkson. I just hope they don't pay through the nose long term to get him. I think he'll get a lot of dough and term.

 

[Frank E]

Coco is getting bought out according BobbyMac's twitter.

 

[Jalili]

I wouldn't really know what to expect from Clarkson, so I'd probably pass on him unless we were getting a hometown discount.

 

[BlueWhiteBlood]

I wouldn't really know what to expect from Clarkson, so I'd probably pass on him unless we were getting a hometown discount.

I prefer to go after Horton, however, I also think that Clarkson will score more points when he gets out of that stifling defensive system in Jersey. I think 4 million a pop is realistic for Clarkson, especially in this market. He's not getting 6-6.5 million from anybody in this league.

The media seems to be paying no attention to the fact that players are going to get squeezed this off-season, by throwing reports out with these crazy numbers. I find it hard to believe that the agents are doing all of this. Those unnamed "sources"!

 

[cw]

Roy would be the higher risk higher reward choice. His playmaking ability could mesh incredibly well with Kessel, but Weiss would be the lower risk, safer choice who probably won't reach lofty point totals but likely plays a more consistent game and less of a health risk.

I'm really hoping for a Stastny trade today to the Leafs. I think today would be the day to do it, you know, like this morning before noon...
I'd be most happy with that option on the top line.

Read yesterday that since Sakic & Roy took over, the notion of moving Stastny has cooled.

FYI, Joe Sakic played a few seasons for the Avs late in his career with Paul and early in his career, with his father, Peter. Aside from those who played with the Howes, I would guess that's fairly unusual. But with that kind of history, I would think Joe would know Paul and what he's capable of pretty well.

True, but Sakic also had a close connection to Seth Jones and he didn't choose him at the draft.  He made the right hockey decision, IMO.

In this case, I would think a better hockey choice for the Avs and for Stastny is to move him elsewhere given the log jam at centre, the size of his contract and that they could address other glaring needs by trading him.

I'd certainly be more interested in him than UFAs Weiss, Briere, Roy, Bozak or Ribeiro in terms of talent. The key would be the talent cost to get him and whether he'd resign for reasonable price & term before becoming a UFA next summer. Because the only cost for the UFAs is money.

They'd also probably have to find a home for Grabbo by eating some of his salary because he's virtually untradeable with his contract (or much less likely, they could trade Kadri).

There's something up in terms of what Nonis is trying to do if Nonis is still entertaining Bozak (and I take it at face value that he is). That fits with the rumours that he's trying to move Grabbo. The trouble for me would be if he signs Bozak for $4 mil and has to eat $2 mil/yr of Grabbo's deal - I'd rather have Grabbo at $5.5 than a net $6 mil for Bozak as I still think Grabbo is the better center.

 

[Corn Flake]

True, but Sakic also had a close connection to Seth Jones and he didn't choose him at the draft.

He did? I mean, I heard the story of him telling Seth's dad to get his kids skating lessons but it wasn't like they were close or anything(Sakic didn't know who Popeye Jones was, by accounts). Certainly not to the extent of playing with him or his father.

Going back and reading the stories... yeah it wasn't a lot more than just the early connection but there was still some sentiment, plus the connection being from Colorado added to it a bit.  Different than playing with the dads of the players but still I think he made a hockey decision to draft McKinnon when he would have picked Jones and nobody would have questioned it.

At some point they have to cut bait with Stastny or sign him long term and deal with their centre log jam.