We need Cory Schneider
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BlueWhiteBlood
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AvroArrow said:
Thanks, oversight. Wasn't supposed to be.
Last season: 16-4-2, 2.23 GAA, .929 SV%
This season: 19-7-1, 1.97 GAA, .937 SV%
Sure he's on a very good team but my heavens those are good numbers. It's not as if the Canucks are some defense-first, trapping style of team either. Not the best indicator, but they allow the 6th most shots against per game.
Either way, I think he's at that point where he deserves a shot as a number 1 goalie. Dudes not going to stink it up and become a sub .900 guy- just no way. He's a quality, quality goalie who could very well be in the Vezina discussion for the next 10 years.
If you look at age, salary/cap, current level of play AND potential and availability, he is probably THE best option.
I'd easily run with a Schneider + Reimer/Scrivens pair next season. Let the chips fall where they may but nobody would blame them for trying. So how do we do this?
This season: 19-7-1, 1.97 GAA, .937 SV%
Sure he's on a very good team but my heavens those are good numbers. It's not as if the Canucks are some defense-first, trapping style of team either. Not the best indicator, but they allow the 6th most shots against per game.
Either way, I think he's at that point where he deserves a shot as a number 1 goalie. Dudes not going to stink it up and become a sub .900 guy- just no way. He's a quality, quality goalie who could very well be in the Vezina discussion for the next 10 years.
If you look at age, salary/cap, current level of play AND potential and availability, he is probably THE best option.
I'd easily run with a Schneider + Reimer/Scrivens pair next season. Let the chips fall where they may but nobody would blame them for trying. So how do we do this?
maplesyrup
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How close to Schneider would Gardiner on his own get you? 60-70%?
bustaheims
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Sarge said:
Why must every deal you suggest start with Gardiner? Burke's so unlikely to move him.
Sarge said:
Yup, I'd probably say around that. Depends really how inclined Vancouver is to give him up (I'm guessing they aren't overly excited too).
One thing that may favour a move is that he IS an RFA this summer. Not sure how much he would be asking, but I don't think it's out of the realm of possibilites that his contract status might come into play.
GhostofPotvin29
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I mean Vancouver has to do something with that goalie situation at some point, right? Schneider is likely going to want to be a starter.
maplesyrup
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bustaheims said:
Hey, I'd much prefer to mention Connolly or Komisarek but, well, um... you know.
maplesyrup
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Maybe the threat of an offer sheet forces Vancouver's hand?
Potvin29 said:
Yeah, I'd think so. Boston's situation is a little different. Thomas is about to turn 38 years old in 2 weeks. He's a free agent after next season. I think it's a real logical progression that after that, they cut ties with Tim and Rask takes over.
Luongo/Schneider is different. Luongo is 33 in 2 days... he still has plenty of hockey (and contract) left in him. At some point, Vancouver has to make a move. Schneider can't (won't) wait 9 years.
If our first ends up in the 6/7/8 spot I'd probably be inclined to deal it and Reimer (Vancouver will need a backup) for Schneider. I think that might get it done. And really, as it appears right now, the players pegged in those spots have some questions (Galcghenyuk and Faksa major injuries... Gaunce ceiling of "only 2nd line", etc).
Corn Flake
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Erndog said:
They do probably have to make a call this year with him for sure because of his RFA status. He should be able to demand $3 mil per year, and get it.
bustaheims
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Sarge said:
Sure, but, it's not like they're the only other options the Leafs have to trade. Schneider will almost certainly go for less than what people think, and, if it's to the Leafs, Gardiner will not be involved unless it's a much bigger deal.
Just because Reimer got concussed this year and couldn't get his game back together when he came back,doesn't mean he's lost his game for good.
I'd like to look at Reimer and Scrivens next year,to see who excels...no need to rush to get a Schneider when he hasn't played in the Toronto market yet and could lay an egg trying to be a no.1
I'd like to look at Reimer and Scrivens next year,to see who excels...no need to rush to get a Schneider when he hasn't played in the Toronto market yet and could lay an egg trying to be a no.1
bustaheims
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jdh1 said:
Which is part of the reason Vancouver won't get as much for him as people think. Yes, he's highly touted and he's put up very good numbers, but, all he's really shown is that he can play really well for short stretches behind one of the best teams in the league. He certainly wouldn't be the first goalie to go from that to struggling as the starter for a mediocre to bad team (the type of situation he's likely to end up in), and GMs are mindful of that.
Etiam Vultus
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Depending on how Vancouver does in the playoffs, (and how Luongo plays compared to Schneider), Vancouver may be more interested in moving Luongo and going with the younger, cheaper (and possibly better) option. How would you feel about tying up so much cap space in Luongo?
maplesyrup
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Etiam Vultus said:
I'd need to think long and hard about how I'd fit him in but all the jokes about him out there aside, I feel he's still a very, very good goaltender.
Heroic Shrimp
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Sarge said:
I heard Bryan Hayes muse last week that Gardiner plus the high 1st rounder the Leafs are about to secure "might" be enough to get Schneider. "Might"...?
Corn Flake
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bustaheims said:
This is why I think the Leafs should avoid trying to acquire a goalie who has not yet demonstrated he can consistently backstop a young, up and coming team with a solid body of work to draw from.
Going with Reimer/Scrivens and spend far less to get a veteran to support them seems more prudent at this stage. So then the only guesswork is whether they stick with Reimer as the goalie of the future or turn to Scrivens.. or find some crazy way to balance with 3 goalies, which usually never works.