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What the hell is wrong with humanity?

The thing is, it's not the fact that I've heard about it that bothers me.

It's the fact that people are doing it. More and more. Yes, we're hearing about it more,  but it's also happening more. Much more. Anyone check out that link about the child abuse stats in the USA? Crazy...children dying from abuse is actually getting worse, year by year.

That's got nothing at all to do with the media.
 
BlueWhiteBlood said:
I think we should get out into our communities, rather than taking our collective pulse from the media of all things, as they are the last place to get a bead on humanity.

That obviously depends which media you're tuned in to but by in large, yeah... for sure.
 
Floyd said:
BlueWhiteBlood said:
I think we should get out into our communities, rather than taking our collective pulse from the media of all things, as they are the last place to get a bead on humanity.

That obviously depends which media you're tuned in to but by in large, yeah... for sure.

Well, I was referring to the MSM. I don't follow it anymore, haven't for a long time. I get my news from independent sources.
 
BlueWhiteBlood said:
Floyd said:
BlueWhiteBlood said:
I think we should get out into our communities, rather than taking our collective pulse from the media of all things, as they are the last place to get a bead on humanity.

That obviously depends which media you're tuned in to but by in large, yeah... for sure.

Well, I was referring to the MSM. I don't follow it anymore, haven't for a long time. I get my news from independent sources.

I haven't completely converted but I'm well on my way.
 
Obviously these are awful stories, but if you think that things are trending in the wrong direction may I invite you to a few stories from the Middle Ages.
 
Optimus Reim said:
Obviously these are awful stories, but if you think that things are trending in the wrong direction may I invite you to a few stories from the Middle Ages.

Couldn't have said it better myself. 

I often hear people say things like "what's this world coming to?"  Take any other point in the history of the universe and tell me when things were better than they are now.
 
Optimus Reim said:
Obviously these are awful stories, but if you think that things are trending in the wrong direction may I invite you to a few stories from the Middle Ages.

You needn't go back that far.  WWII was no picnic.
 
Part vampire, part warrior,
Carnivore and voyeur
Stare at the transmittal.
Sing to the death rattle.

La, la, la, la, la, la, la-lie
 
Guru Tugginmypuddah said:
Optimus Reim said:
Obviously these are awful stories, but if you think that things are trending in the wrong direction may I invite you to a few stories from the Middle Ages.

You needn't go back that far.  WWII was no picnic.

Touche
 
I did manage to find one moment of truth on the lamestream media....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cCRnkamitVk

EDITED for clarity, by Potvin29
 
Mordac said:
You have to look at all the good stuff and put it into context.  Everyone is capable of great good and great evil.

True...But I disagree with the notion that humanity isn't flawed. Everything I see and read indicates we're getting worse as a species, and more and more people are making the 'evil' choices as a matter of course. If an entire street full of people can willfully ignore the cries of a 2 year old who has been hit by a car, right in front of them, I hold out no hope at all for the human race. That's not one or two people making that decision, I believe its a societal one. And that sickens me.

I never said humanity wasn't flawed but I don't think we are getting worse.  We have come a long way from the dark ages where women were burned if they were suspected of being witches.  Just one example of how much more civilized we have become.  Women and minorities are now equal in society instead of being second class citizens or even slaves. 

Also positive stories aren't news but negative and shocking things are so it is easy to get jaded without forgetting daily most people are good natured. 
 
I always wonder what the future holds for humanity. 100, 200, 300 years from now what will this place be like? Considering how much things have changed in the past 100 years the future fascinates me.
 
TheMightyOdin said:
I always wonder what the future holds for humanity. 100, 200, 300 years from now what will this place be like? Considering how much things have changed in the past 100 years the future fascinates me.

I think most historians and academics would say that we were lucky to get out of the 20th Century without a near ending catastrophe, and I've heard on many occassions that right now we've got a 50/50 chance to make it out of the 21st Century without one. Grain of salt, but definitely interesting to hear.
 
Sure, there are a few things better now than in the past, but I do not believe those 'gains' amount to anything significant, when taken in a global context.

Just look at the billions in the world who go to sleep hungry each night, the people dying of diseases, the billions of workers who work in piss-poor conditions for pennies an hour. What does that get us? A life of relative comfort and luxury here in the industrialized world, but it was built on the blood and exploitation of the world's poor. And as we're finding out now, it's not sustainable, and has come back to bite us on the ass. How many are unemployed in NA right now? How many are "better off" now than if they had a small piece of land to work, and didn't need to work 16 hour days, 6 days a week, just to pay the bills, if they can even find such work?  You call that progress? I call that an absolute humanitarian failure.

And yes, people starved to death 100 years ago, in fact, this has happened throughout the history of mankind. The middle ages, cited earlier, were rough. At least today we can do something about it if we have the will. But we clearly don't. And that's where I see the failure. Using Ethiopia as an example, thousands upon thousands died, and other countries barely even acknowledged it was happening, until it was nearly too late. Again, abject failure of humanity as a whole.

From an ecological point of view, we're far worse off than in the past. When coal and wood fuels were the mainstream, the damage wasn't always as visible, but rest assured today's pollution is having a more damaging effect on the environment than in the past. We know this as fact, yet we do little to nothing about it. Hell, we're expanding on the oilsands, even though it is completely destroying the environment. Many species have lost habitat, and many more are on the verge of extinction. Humanity, with some small exceptions, really doesn't care.

From an economic point of view, lots more people have well paying jobs than in the past. However, there is also a much greater need for money now than there was in the past. In most parts of the world, people have been driven off their lands, forced out of their sustainable, agriculturally based lifestyles, into overcrowded and polluted cities where they beg for worse jobs than they had working the land. Many, many of these people haven't received any benefit from the modernistic amenities that go along with progress.

For a large portion of the worlds population, 'better' isn't really.

Clearly, there are many things that are better than they were a century ago, but I don't think the overall 'holistic health' rating is any better now, and I think we're running headlong towards worse, and I don't think people really care, because they'll be dead and gone by the time it matters to them.
 
Mordac said:
Sure, there are a few things better now than in the past, but I do not believe those 'gains' amount to anything significant, when taken in a global context.

Just look at the billions in the world who go to sleep hungry each night, the people dying of diseases, the billions of workers who work in piss-poor conditions for pennies an hour. What does that get us?

Honestly, I think what you describe here can be used to describe just about any civilization or age post agriculture. i think the affects of things you describe are amplified by the vast numbers of people populating the earth.

I'm not suggesting that things are great now, but I don't think they're as bad as you think in comparison to past times. Sure, the way corporations enslave nations is despicable, but I'm sure similar things happened in the past. Think, colonization.
 
TheMightyOdin said:
I always wonder what the future holds for humanity. 100, 200, 300 years from now what will this place be like? Considering how much things have changed in the past 100 years the future fascinates me.

The transition from fossil-fuels to alternative energy will be a major defining point. This is one thing that intrigues me the most. In some ways, it's almost better if they don't develop a comparable fuel source right away as it might force us back into a sustainable species. One of our major problems isn't lack of fuel/energy, it's too much consumption.
 

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