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Wilson fired, Randy Carlyle takes over

Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Sudafederov said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Sudafederov said:
Coming from somebody who lives on the West coast, if you thought Wilson was a jerk, get ready...

Is Carlyle a jerk who can organize a defense?

Not to answer a question with a question, but can you beat a dead horse?

Heh.  I've been waiting to flay this sorry pony for many, many months my friend.  Turn away if you don't like the sight of it.

Post of the year for me <insert lion spewing here>
 
I am really surprised Burke did this. Im not unhappy about it, just really didnt expect it. Thought for sure he'd finish the year.

I guess he hasn't given up on the season, although they would have to go something like .770 win pctg to make the playoffs now.
 
Like Tortorella, he should probably just be straight up mad at the media all the time.  They seem to like it. :)

Actually in a lot of ways they are similar coaches.

The players should get ready though.. they won't get the patient coach treatment anymore.
 
Mack674 said:
I guess he hasn't given up on the season, although they would have to go something like .770 win pctg to make the playoffs now.

That just blows my mind. If the Leafs had gone 4-5-1 over the last ten, which is still bad, they'd be in excellent position to make the playoffs. The only thing they couldn't do was completely fall apart.
 
I actually thought Wilson's sense of humour was pretty good, and he gave some pretty funny responses but man am I happy he's been gassed. Finally some accountability for so much wrong (I need not list them).

:D  :D  :D  :D  :D
 
Tigger said:
Sudafederov said:
Carlyle is not what this team needs despite his Cup

Why is that?

I think you are exchanging one taskmaster for another taskmaster with a bigger stick. 

Not to coddle them, but I think they need a little more Bylsma and a little less Therrien.
 
Tigger said:
Chazz-Micheal Liles said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Potvin29 said:
Looks like Carlyle it is:

Jeff Marek ‏ @JeffMarek

Just confirmed by @damospin it will be Randy Carlyle behind the Leafs bench tomorrow.

I wonder if he gets the title "interim" or if Burke was already signed him to a 3-year contract, and then, prescient guy that he is, signed him to a 1-year extension.

If its Carlyle I think the Leafs just assume the Anaheim contract out right. That's how I heard it works.

Where'd you hear that?

It's been mentioned that Carlyle and Getzlaf were at odds so not sure if that indicates anything about acquiring him.

I'm just speculating based on the media talk that was around Bruce Boudreu firing.
 
I wonder how much Ron Wilson had in killing Howard Berger's career?  If so, it might of been his biggest contribution.
 
Sudafederov said:
Tigger said:
Sudafederov said:
Carlyle is not what this team needs despite his Cup

Why is that?

I think you are exchanging one taskmaster for another taskmaster with a bigger stick. 

Not to coddle them, but I think they need a little more Bylsma and a little less Therrien.

From what I know the difference between Wilson and Carlyle is night and day, Nigel Tufnel's 'this amp goes to 11' difference.

I guess we'll see how ass kicking goes down.
 
Wilson departs with about the same record after 64 games as he compiled last year ... and close enough to the year before .. and close to the year before that ...

I suspect they realize what the unlikely math is on making the playoffs (roughly 11% chance).

Aside from trying to win that lottery, which as others have pointed out, is usually really tough for a coach to turn the team around on a dime, Carlyle will get to review these guys in action to help Burke make the necessary changes and prepare for next year.

I would have preferred a players coach but Carlyle will give some of the softies on this roster a good deserving boot in the arse. It's certainly not all Wilson's fault.
 
Saint Nik said:
Mack674 said:
I guess he hasn't given up on the season, although they would have to go something like .770 win pctg to make the playoffs now.

That just blows my mind. If the Leafs had gone 4-5-1 over the last ten, which is still bad, they'd be in excellent position to make the playoffs. The only thing they couldn't do was completely fall apart.

I think some commentators on Leafs TV or maybe CBC even said after that Edmonton win that the drought would finally end, and it would take a monumental collapse for them to miss the playoffs this year.

Like lose 10 in a row for example. Is that monumental enough? No, losing in overtime does not count as "not a loss" so lost 6 in a row is not true. They didnt "win" any games, so if you didn't win that must mean that you've... lost?
Its 10. TEN. TEN GAMES. DOUBLE, DIGITS.

Burke should be held accountable for some of this sure, but damn, when is the criticizing of Dion going to come in? Real good leadership there bro, couldn't inspire your team to bother playing like they give a damn for over 2 weeks. Really, I applaud you. Well done.
 
cw said:
Wilson departs with about the same record after 64 games as he compiled last year ... and close enough to the year before .. and close to the year before that ...

I suspect they realize what the unlikely math is on making the playoffs (roughly 11% chance).

Aside from trying to win that lottery, which as others have pointed out, is usually really tough for a coach to turn the team around on a dime, Carlyle will get to review these guys in action to help Burke make the necessary changes and prepare for next year.

I would have preferred a players coach but Carlyle will give some of the softies on this roster a good deserving boot in the arse.

I suppose we'll get to find out who wants to play in Toronto and who is just along for the ride.
 
Mack674 said:
when is the criticizing of Dion going to come in? Real good leadership there bro, couldn't inspire your team to bother playing like they give a damn for over 2 weeks. Really, I applaud you. Well done.
Really? Great post, I applaud you....well done<enter sarcasm>
 
So glad he's gone. Burke looks like a fool for giving him that extension.  As awful as his special teams and team D were, not everything can be laid at his feet. There are quite a few players who should be a little red-faced right about now.

No more excuses for Burke now either. The roster has been turned over and he brought in his own coaching hire. No playoffs next season and Burke should be gone as well.
 
TML fan said:
cw said:
Wilson departs with about the same record after 64 games as he compiled last year ... and close enough to the year before .. and close to the year before that ...

I suspect they realize what the unlikely math is on making the playoffs (roughly 11% chance).

Aside from trying to win that lottery, which as others have pointed out, is usually really tough for a coach to turn the team around on a dime, Carlyle will get to review these guys in action to help Burke make the necessary changes and prepare for next year.

I would have preferred a players coach but Carlyle will give some of the softies on this roster a good deserving boot in the arse.

I suppose we'll get to find out who wants to play in Toronto and who is just along for the ride.

If this had happened 4, 3 or even 2 games ago they would still have had a reasonable chance at turning it around. After that Florida loss though....
 
Mack674 said:
Saint Nik said:
Mack674 said:
I guess he hasn't given up on the season, although they would have to go something like .770 win pctg to make the playoffs now.

That just blows my mind. If the Leafs had gone 4-5-1 over the last ten, which is still bad, they'd be in excellent position to make the playoffs. The only thing they couldn't do was completely fall apart.

I think some commentators on Leafs TV or maybe CBC even said after that Edmonton win that the drought would finally end, and it would take a monumental collapse for them to miss the playoffs this year.

Like lose 10 in a row for example. Is that monumental enough? No, losing in overtime does not count as "not a loss" so lost 6 in a row is not true. They didnt "win" any games, so if you didn't win that must mean that you've... lost?
Its 10. TEN. TEN GAMES. DOUBLE, DIGITS.

Burke should be held accountable for some of this sure, but damn, when is the criticizing of Dion going to come in? Real good leadership there bro, couldn't inspire your team to bother playing like they give a damn for over 2 weeks. Really, I applaud you. Well done.

They got two points in Edmonton. That's a win. It's 6 in a row. Your point is well made, but inaccurate.
 
Guilt Trip said:
Mack674 said:
when is the criticizing of Dion going to come in? Real good leadership there bro, couldn't inspire your team to bother playing like they give a damn for over 2 weeks. Really, I applaud you. Well done.
Really? Great post, I applaud you....well done<enter sarcasm>

Aww, does someone need a tissue ? Did I hit a nerve there, big wheel ?
Thanks for that thoughtful input. Not only was it pertinent to the discussion, but it was so hilarious I think I gave myself a hernia from laughing so hard. Where did you come up with the "enter sarcasm" part? Gold!
 
Great, hopefully half our roster joins Wilson wherever he goes next year, starting with Phaneuf.  What an albatross that contract is.
 

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