Wilson fired, Randy Carlyle takes over
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Leafaholic99
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BrownRolo said:
Certain professions have contracts as they value their employees and feel it is necessary to retain them for the length they want, rather then have the employee up and leave at a moments notice. A benefit of that for the employee is, they are guaranteed their full salary no matter what.
losveratos said:
No, it has nothing to do with that.
It is simply a matter of contract law.
The employer - employee relationship is governed by the contract between the two parties. Sometimes it id a collective agreement between a group of employees and the employer but most often it is an individual contract.
In many instances the contract for an individual employee hire is not reduced to a single written document. In some such individual contracts, such as this one, an actual written contract is drawn up that specifies all of the terms including length of tenure.
The employer is obligated by contract to pay the employee for the duration of the contract. If the employee is terminated for any reason other than specified in the contract, the employer's obligation to pay continues.
Here, Wilson did not breach the contract; he continued to coach to the best of his ability and did not breach any of his contractual obligations.
The team failed to perform and that resulted in the termination of Wilson's employment. The performance level of the team is not part of the coaching contract.
GhostofPotvin29
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From Damien:
Man, that's one heck of a tweet. Embarrassed the once-proud organization?
I would hazard a guess he thinks differently of his own erroneous Twitter reporting of Pat Burns' death.
The media sure can't let that go with Wilson.
Man, that's one heck of a tweet. Embarrassed the once-proud organization?
I would hazard a guess he thinks differently of his own erroneous Twitter reporting of Pat Burns' death.
The media sure can't let that go with Wilson.
Strangelove
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One thing to remember as we reflect upon his tenure as the Leafs' coach is that Ron Wilson coached a lot of hockey games. In Toronto alone he coached for three and a half full seasons. And that doesn't even include all the games he coached elsewhere.
Impressive stuff if you ask me.
Impressive stuff if you ask me.
GhostofPotvin29
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KW Sluggo said:
Why? Why does it matter to you? It doesn't count against the cap, it doesn't preclude him from being fired, and I doubt you're going to get many good coaches to sign a 1-year contract (not saying it hasn't happened, but I'm assuming most guys will want some kind of security). If MLSE agrees to pay it, then good for them, because I couldn't care less the terms of the contract.
GhostofPotvin29
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CarltonTheBear said:
http://www.thestar.com/sports/leafs/article/1140467--feschuk-joffrey-lupul-warred-with-new-leaf-coach-in-anaheim
Let the wild, anonymous-source-fueled speculation begin! Sources also say as Lupul headed towards the bar his shoulders looked tense!
GhostofPotvin29
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I don't see why it should be an issue here. He was behind some really good players in Anaheim when he came back from injury and was never put in a position to succeed at LW. From what I can tell his frustration came from not being viewed as good enough to be a LW on one of their top 2 lines.
Here, Carlyle has seen what he's done this year. He'd be insane to mess with that, so I don't see where the problem would lie. The issue he had in Anaheim doesn't appear to be an issue here.
Here, Carlyle has seen what he's done this year. He'd be insane to mess with that, so I don't see where the problem would lie. The issue he had in Anaheim doesn't appear to be an issue here.
Potvin29 said:
The "once proud" is somewhat debatable too.
From Conn Smythe's construction arrangements, through Stafford and Harold being convicted (Hal running the place from prison), the Ballard era (Yolanda anyone?), Ballard and the trainer selling Leaf sticks etc on the side, the sex scandal at the Gardens, bags over fans heads (and almost over Roger Neilson's too if Ballard had his way) and the last 46 years, well it hardly smacks of being "once proud".
Ken
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Potvin29 said:
I'll hazard a response to this. I don't like the term because it all but guarantees that Dallas Eakins will get his NHL shot elsewhere. I understand why Burke wouldn't want to promote Eakins when the Marlies looked to be loaded up for a run, but Eakins was the best choice in my opinion. Here's hoping Eakins waits out Carlisle's rep for having a limited shelf-life with the teams he coaches.
crazyperfectdevil
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Ken said:
the only nhl team he coached was the ducks....and he was there for 7 years ...what's a limited shelf life?
GhostofPotvin29
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Ken said:
What about Eakins to you is preferable to Carlyle? I mentioned earlier in the thread I don't really know enough about coaching strategy to compare the two, nor have I had the chance to watch much of the Marlies, but his record in 2 seasons there doesn't bowl me over.
Heroic Shrimp
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CarltonTheBear said:
Holy smokes, how many former Leaf defensemen have been part of the coaching equation here lately? Wilson, Carlyle, Eakins, Zettler, possibly Farrish... anybody else?
hockeyfan1
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Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Looks like a proven winner. At least for now, the Leafs finally have a coach with a proven playoff record. The fact that he is no stranger to Burke makes all of that more effective. In other words, Carlyle is experienced enough (hopefully) to know what it takes to be successful, for both himself, and, for a team to get there.
P.S. Best of luck to Ron Wilson in his endeavor for another NHL coaching assignment elsewhere. It definitely won't be easy considering his sorry record with the Leafs. Maybe a lowly outfit such as the Blue Jackets may consider him in the future, who knows.
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My favorite - Pat QuinnHeroic Shrimp said: