4EVRLEAFAN
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Robertson finally gets his chance and is the only one to score, outstanding young man, should have been in from the beginning.
R2, G5: Panthers @ Maple Leafs - May 14th, 7:00pm - SN, TSN 1050
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Pretty much did nothing otherwise and I dont think that goal is going to be enough to keep him in lineup for game 7.
azzurri63
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I agree. Just get him to play smarter he can help. Has shown he can score instead we play Berube's plugs.
azzurri63
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You can say that about how many others?
TheMightyOdin
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Robertson scored and Florida pinched him in the face after tackling him.
By that logic, no one who was in the lineup tonight should play the next game.
Bill_Berg
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100%.
Ekblad.
Andy007
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Probably just his roid-rage
4EVRLEAFAN
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lamajama
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Hmmm.
GhostofPotvin29
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*tiptoes in*
bustaheims
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Except, this does feel different - and not in a good way. Outside of the two COVID years, I never felt that the team didn't put an effort in. They weren't good enough, but at least they showed up. This group feels like they starting to quit halfway through game 3, and have fully left the series already.
GhostofPotvin29
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Haven’t posted here in awhile but my concerns about this team all season was their 5v5 play and their inability to consistently control play, something that by and large was not an issue in previous seasons. I was concerned that once they got into the playoffs, vs better opponents, that they were susceptible to any variance in their SH% or SV%. Lo and behold they are last among the 2nd round teams in shot attempt share, scoring chance share, expected goals. They are getting pummelled at 5v5.
I never fully bought in the “better defensive structure” line that was being sold all season, and many of their underlying numbers are worse than previous seasons, they just got a weaker top of the Atlantic than in, say, 2022 or 2023.
They nerfed their offensive play in return for terrible defensive play anyway in the series.
I never fully bought in the “better defensive structure” line that was being sold all season, and many of their underlying numbers are worse than previous seasons, they just got a weaker top of the Atlantic than in, say, 2022 or 2023.
They nerfed their offensive play in return for terrible defensive play anyway in the series.
L K
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These are good players. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Marner goes on to put up a good playoff run next year if he goes to another team. I think the well is poisoned and sometimes you can't fix it and just have to dig a new one.
The core is toxic. The reputation is too much to overcome.
Honestly the more I think about this team, the more I wonder if a retool is enough.
Matthews is an absurd player in the regular season. He's had moments of taking over games. He was fantastic in the middle of the Boston series last year. That's a rare occurrence. He's a 13+M dollar player who shrinks in the postseason.
Nylander is an absurd offensive talent. His defensive game is non-existent at times.
Marner. An absurd regular season player. His game is far too peripheral and he can't play through the physicality to generate goals.
Tavares. He's old and it really shows right now. I know he's had moments of putting up points but he has honestly been the worst of the core 4 players to me when I'm watching him skate around the ice the last few games. The puck dies on his stick every time he gets it on the half boards and the few times he does win a puck battle he then tries to drive through three guys leading to a turnover.
Knies...man he's a really impressive younger player but he does go quiet at times. I expected him to be more of a physically imposing force as this series went on and I feel like he's gotten quieter.
Carlo/Tanev/McCabe/Benoit - they can't move the puck up the ice consistently. Berube has us playing a dump and chase system that can't generate speed out of the defensive zone. We need guys who can play defensively AND be puck movers.
Rielly - can move the puck up the ice but holy hell he is bad defensively.
OEL - an in between problem. He's decent enough defensively. He's decent enough getting the puck moving but he also makes a lot of mistakes handling the puc
The rest of them:
0 Goals - Laughton, McMann, Lorentz, Jarnkrok, Holmberg....we are 11 games into the playoffs
Lorentz -4, Laughton -3, McMann -3, Jarnkrok -3
They don't score and then eventually give up goals AND they aren't facing the top offensive units. This isn't Laughton going up against Connor McDavid and holding him to 7 points in 5 games. It's them getting outplayed by other 3rd and 4th lines.
2028 1st - unprotected to Philly if 2027 pick is protected
2027 1st - traded for Scott Laughton (top 10 protected)
2026 1st - traded for Brendan Carlo (Top 5 protected)
2025 1st - traded for Jake McCabe
2024 1st - draft Ben Danford
2023 1st - traded for Ryan O'Reilly
2023 1st - draft Easton Cowan (Sandin trade)
2022 1st - traded to unload Petr Mrazek (got a 2nd round pick to draft Minten)
2021 1st - traded for Nick Foligno
2020 1st - given up to unload the last year of Patrick Marleau (Seth Jarvis)
2020 1st - draft Rodion Amirov
2019 1st - traded for Jake Muezzin
2018 1st - draft Rasmus Sandin
2017 1st - draft Timothy Liljegren
2016 1st - traded for Freddy Andersen
What a miserable pile of nonsense.