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2017-18 Toronto Maple Leafs - General Discussion

cabber24 said:
Dappleganger said:
Anyone feeling the same way? Leafs No. 1 in the TSN power rankings:

http://www.tsn.ca/turning-over-a-new-leaf-in-7-eleven-power-rankings-1.885880
Vegas co-favorites as well...

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/news/maple-leafs-now-betting-favourites-to-win-the-stanley-cup/ar-AAtGRRI?li=AAggNb9

Some dude on TSN had their "pro-line best bets" yesterday and said to take the Caps and the Sabres over the Leafs and Golden Knights.  I guess whoever followed his advice last night is wondering why today.
 
https://hockeypdocast.com/2017/10/19/ep-200-top-10-goalies/

Normally something like this would be posted in the general NHL thread, but if you scroll to about 47:20 it becomes a lot more relevant surprisingly.
 
herman said:
https://twitter.com/chartinghockey/status/922181718051782658

Heeeey. Points per ice time.

Don't like where Marner stands here.  Quite accurate in showing his production this year.  Not a good trajectory to have.  Improvement required.
 
herman said:
https://hockeypdocast.com/2017/10/19/ep-200-top-10-goalies/

Normally something like this would be posted in the general NHL thread, but if you scroll to about 47:20 it becomes a lot more relevant surprisingly.

More specific (podcast) conversation about the Leafs' goalie situation:
https://soundcloud.com/leafs-geeks/episode-64-goaltending-analysis-with-nick-mercadante
 
Pointless observations from hockey-reference and corsica.hockey:

Matthews: 8 GP 7G 5A 12Pts
Last season, it took Matthews 20 games to reach 7 goals (4 goals in Game 1).

Nylander: 8 GP 3 G 6A 9 Pts
He was faster last season to reach these totals (3G in 5 games, 10 pts in 8 GP), but they were all in losing efforts. He didn't go more than 3 games without a point last year.

Hyman: 8GP 3G 2A 5Pts
Zach Hyman reached 3 G after 22 GP last season. He got it in 7 this season.

Kadri: 8GP 4G 4A 8Pts
It took Kadri 10 games last season to reach 4 goals and 8 points.

Brown: 8GP 3G 2A 5Pts
It took 17 games for Brown to score 3 goals last season and he did it this year in 7 games playing mostly 4th line minutes (all his goals are EV, two of them with JvR-Bozak though).

Rielly: 8GP 1G 6A 7Pts
The added PP time has given Rielly's counting stats a small boost (1G 3A -- all secondary assists).

Fun comparison on the PP though where Rielly's lack of point-shot is not holding him or Kadri's PP unit back:
TOIGAP1CFCAGFGAxGFxGAiCFiCF/60
Gardiner21.31123011313.441.1238.45
Rielly20.75131554607.020.111337.59

Hainsey: 8 GP 0G 6A 6Pts
Hainsey has doubled his production with Pittsburgh in half the number of games played. He hit 6 pts with Carolina at 17 games.
 
They weren't going to keep rotating Fehr and Moore forever and Moore looked like the better player. I'll give Fehr credit though he was better than I was expecting. That might earn him a claim from somebody.
 
WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:
Yeah, the Fehr waiving basically covers the cost of Polak.

They had room under the cap (LTIR room) to carry both.

However, they don't have roster space for all of Polak, Rosen, and Fehr.  Expect to see Rosen back up after Fehr gets claimed or assigned to the Marlies.
 
Bender said:
WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:
I wonder if Fehr becomes more attractive to other teams after clearing waivers ala Pickard.
He's still insurance in case Moore gets hurt.

Yeah, I would think the Leafs would value him being in the minors and ready for an injury call-up rather than the 6th round pick they'd get in return
 
The only reason the Leafs may want to move Fehr out is if they have another move brewing:

Fehr will still account for 975k of cap space while in the minors.  Right now they sit at $5.45 million available under LTIR, prior to demoting Fehr and calling up Calle (as expected).  After those moves, they will be at $5.55 million available.  If Fehr were to be traded or claimed, the cap space would grow to $6.525 million.

Just sayin'....
https://www.capfriendly.com/players/erik-karlsson
 
Coco-puffs said:
The only reason the Leafs may want to move Fehr out is if they have another move brewing:

Fehr will still account for 975k of cap space while in the minors.  Right now they sit at $5.45 million available under LTIR, prior to demoting Fehr and calling up Calle (as expected).  After those moves, they will be at $5.55 million available.  If Fehr were to be traded or claimed, the cap space would grow to $6.525 million.

Just sayin'....
https://www.capfriendly.com/players/erik-karlsson

I'm pretty sure Karlsson is going to make more than 6.525 in his next deal.  I'm also pretty sure the Sens are moving him at any point over this season.  If they aren't moving Turris, they aren't moving Karlsson.
 
Bender said:
He's still insurance in case Moore gets hurt.

They still have Aaltonen (who looked like he was about to steal the 4C spot until the last second), Gauthier (who looked like he was going to be the teams future 4C), and Ben Smith (*sigh*) with the Marlies. I don't think any teams needs FOUR back-up 4th line centres.
 
Significantly Insignificant said:
Coco-puffs said:
The only reason the Leafs may want to move Fehr out is if they have another move brewing:

Fehr will still account for 975k of cap space while in the minors.  Right now they sit at $5.45 million available under LTIR, prior to demoting Fehr and calling up Calle (as expected).  After those moves, they will be at $5.55 million available.  If Fehr were to be traded or claimed, the cap space would grow to $6.525 million.

Just sayin'....
https://www.capfriendly.com/players/erik-karlsson

I'm pretty sure Karlsson is going to make more than 6.525 in his next deal.  I'm also pretty sure the Sens are moving him at any point over this season.  If they aren't moving Turris, they aren't moving Karlsson.

It was a joke.  Of course they aren't moving him.  But, since you took it seriously.... I'll take him at 12.5M on his next contract and he could still be added to this years team if there was ever a chance in hell that would happen.
 
Coco-puffs said:
The only reason the Leafs may want to move Fehr out is if they have another move brewing:

Or just to free up as much cap space as possible through moving players who they don't expect to contribute to the roster . . .
 

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