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2017-18 Toronto Maple Leafs - General Discussion

I thought Timashov was the best Leaf on the ice, by far.  Also was impressed with Dzierkals for the first period and then he sort of went phantom.  Gordeev is a pretty steady player  and I was impressed with him.
Liljegren was very impressive as well.  Lots of things to look forward to. 
 
I am not sure about Bracco as yet, he was trying hard today, no doubt, I think we will see what happens after a season with the Marlies.
 
I now understand the reason for the hype surrounding Liligren. He needs some fine tuning to be sure, but I think he'll be another good offensive minded D-man for the Leafs next season. I saw some flashes of potential with Timoshov, and a few other forwards , but the organization still lacks a solid defensive defenseman.
 
RedLeaf said:
I now understand the reason for the hype surrounding Liligren. He needs some fine tuning to be sure, but I think he'll be another good offensive minded D-man for the Leafs next season. I saw some flashes of potential with Timoshov, and a few other forwards , but the organization still lacks a solid defensive defenseman.
They come cheap and are easy to fill. D like Lil are much harder to come by.

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Bender said:
RedLeaf said:
I now understand the reason for the hype surrounding Liligren. He needs some fine tuning to be sure, but I think he'll be another good offensive minded D-man for the Leafs next season. I saw some flashes of potential with Timoshov, and a few other forwards , but the organization still lacks a solid defensive defenseman.
They come cheap and are easy to fill. D like Lil are much harder to come by.

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If young, fast and talented, stay-at-home D-men were easy to find, we would have 1 or even 2 by now.
 
Travis Dermott seems one determined fellow...


https://www.thestar.com/sports/leafs/2017/09/10/travis-dermott-not-a-shy-rookie-as-he-chases-spot-on-leafs-blue-line.html
 
disco said:
https://twitter.com/TSN_Sports/status/907047727338487810

MLHS with the transcript as always: https://mapleleafshotstove.com/2017/09/10/lou-lamoriello-bob-mckenzie-interview/

Although in typical Lou fashion, he basically said nothing of substance in that 30 minute interview.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
MLHS with the transcript as always: https://mapleleafshotstove.com/2017/09/10/lou-lamoriello-bob-mckenzie-interview/

Although in typical Lou fashion, he basically said nothing of substance in that 30 minute interview.

My favourite part was the Cheshire Cat grin Lou had when Bob asked about Nylander's contract discussions.
 
RedLeaf said:
If young, fast and talented, stay-at-home D-men were easy to find, we would have 1 or even 2 by now.

I like fast and talented defensemen too! The only thing is if they are fast and talented, I kind of don't want them just to stay at home. I think I'm looking for someone who can skate, see the ice well, and has very strong defensive instincts in terms of positioning (body, stick, gap control) that can neutralize zone entries. Other than not being very tall, Dermott is quite possibly that very player.

http://www.tsn.ca/dermott-s-stock-rising-ahead-of-leafs-training-camp-1.852625
?He really learned to use the skill sets that he has,? said head coach Sheldon Keefe. ?He kills a lot of plays early and he?s very evasive. As he learned how to use his body and learned to use the limited time and space that you have at the pro level, he learned to make plays through that.?

The crispness of Dermott?s overall game stands out among his peers; now Dermott needs to elevate it even further to reach the next level.

?Some of his stick positioning and defending, those kinds of things when he hasn?t closed the space is one area,? Keefe said of Dermott?s next steps. ?But that doesn?t present itself very often because he is tight, he closes the gap real quick, so that?s a real positive for him. He?s got a bright future ahead, he?s going to continue to work and I know he?s excited to get going in camp.?
 
herman said:
CarltonTheBear said:
MLHS with the transcript as always: https://mapleleafshotstove.com/2017/09/10/lou-lamoriello-bob-mckenzie-interview/

Although in typical Lou fashion, he basically said nothing of substance in that 30 minute interview.

My favourite part was the Cheshire Cat grin Lou had when Bob asked about Nylander's contract discussions.

I was half expecting the lights to mysteriously go out at that point and to have McKenzie replaced by Dreger when they came back on.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
herman said:
CarltonTheBear said:
MLHS with the transcript as always: https://mapleleafshotstove.com/2017/09/10/lou-lamoriello-bob-mckenzie-interview/

Although in typical Lou fashion, he basically said nothing of substance in that 30 minute interview.

My favourite part was the Cheshire Cat grin Lou had when Bob asked about Nylander's contract discussions.

I was half expecting the lights to mysteriously go out at that point and to have McKenzie replaced by Dreger when they came back on.

How are your video editing skills?
 
Did the successes of last year?s team surprise you a little bit?

Lamoriello: Oh, I think so. I think that the growth and the way the players adapted within the framework of the system? I think in the previous year what we went through was Mike bringing in an up-tempo system and we had to really educate the veterans who were here before to play that and find out how many could. The teaching was really into the veterans. The people who really survived that were perfect at it so Mike could focus on the younger players last year. The veterans really helped the younger players by doing it right all the time. Also, the receptiveness of the young players ? we didn?t know how quickly they would come. We didn?t know that they would adjust that quickly and have the success they have. I would have to say [it surprised me]. We weren?t different from anybody else. We were a little ahead of ourselves.

This might be the most revealing thing Lou actually said that he hadn't touched on before.
 
RedLeaf said:
Bender said:
RedLeaf said:
I now understand the reason for the hype surrounding Liligren. He needs some fine tuning to be sure, but I think he'll be another good offensive minded D-man for the Leafs next season. I saw some flashes of potential with Timoshov, and a few other forwards , but the organization still lacks a solid defensive defenseman.
They come cheap and are easy to fill. D like Lil are much harder to come by.

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If young, fast and talented, stay-at-home D-men were easy to find, we would have 1 or even 2 by now.
Young, fast and talented D are less one dimensional than a stay at home D.

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herman said:
RedLeaf said:
If young, fast and talented, stay-at-home D-men were easy to find, we would have 1 or even 2 by now.

I like fast and talented defensemen too! The only thing is if they are fast and talented, I kind of don't want them just to stay at home. I think I'm looking for someone who can skate, see the ice well, and has very strong defensive instincts in terms of positioning (body, stick, gap control) that can neutralize zone entries. Other than not being very tall, Dermott is quite possibly that very player.

http://www.tsn.ca/dermott-s-stock-rising-ahead-of-leafs-training-camp-1.852625
?He really learned to use the skill sets that he has,? said head coach Sheldon Keefe. ?He kills a lot of plays early and he?s very evasive. As he learned how to use his body and learned to use the limited time and space that you have at the pro level, he learned to make plays through that.?

The crispness of Dermott?s overall game stands out among his peers; now Dermott needs to elevate it even further to reach the next level.

?Some of his stick positioning and defending, those kinds of things when he hasn?t closed the space is one area,? Keefe said of Dermott?s next steps. ?But that doesn?t present itself very often because he is tight, he closes the gap real quick, so that?s a real positive for him. He?s got a bright future ahead, he?s going to continue to work and I know he?s excited to get going in camp.?
I agree. When I say stay-at-home, I'm really saying their talent lies in the ability to keep pucks out of their zone more than contributing to the offense. Defence first.
 

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