2017-2018 NHL Thread

[CarltonTheBear]

https://twitter.com/Sean_Leahy/status/968523979693658112

Would be a shame if they lost home-ice advantage in the playoffs because of this.

Hah, I just realized that this injury occurred in the game against the Leafs and for some reason he still played in their game against Buffalo the very next day.

 

[Coco-puffs]

https://twitter.com/Sean_Leahy/status/968523979693658112

Would be a shame if they lost home-ice advantage in the playoffs because of this.

I know you don't actually mean that.  No shame at all in wanting the Leafs to gain home ice, no matter how it comes.

 

[Coco-puffs]

https://twitter.com/Sean_Leahy/status/968523979693658112

Would be a shame if they lost home-ice advantage in the playoffs because of this.

Hah, I just realized that this injury occurred in the game against the Leafs and for some reason he still played in their game against Buffalo the very next day.

The guy is a downright warrior.  Played with broken ribs etc in the past.  Not surprised.

Apparently the initial x-ray was negative after the game Saturday.  Was still in major discomfort after the game on Sunday, so they did a CT scan which revealed the small fracture.

 

[Kin]

Ottawa Senators Fans Are Trapped in Hell

 

[Zee]

Ottawa Senators Fans Are Trapped in Hell

I hope Melnyk can continue to own the Sens for the next 30 years

 

[Heroic Shrimp]

More likely, the Senators could have Chabot and Ceci as their top pairing, and that wouldn?t be the worst thing in the world.

By this time next season, in fact, they could be well on their way to becoming a flipped side version of Karlsson and Marc Methot, at 22 and 25 years old.

The similarities are there. The offensively gifted Chabot is on track to becoming as good as Karlsson. Ceci is only like Methot in that both are from Ottawa, both are good skaters, both have size and ? now that Ceci has been groomed to think defence first ? both are perfectly suited to be teammed with a Karlsson/Chabot like player.

http://ottawasun.com/sports/hockey/nhl/ottawa-senators/brennan-the-time-is-now-to-pair-cody-ceci-and-thomas-chabot-on-the-senators-blue-line

Chabot is on track to becoming as good as the best offensive defencemen of this generation. Haha

The whole article is amazing. Guaranteed that Ceci signs an 8-year extension this summer that is going to be hilariously bad.

It owns that Don Brennan, who says Chabot is on track to being as offensively good as Karlsson, is the same guy who called Karlsson a "garbage pick" on his draft day.

 

[Guru Tugginmypuddah]

I mean, it's funny in a not funny sorta way, the Senaturds being total clown shoes and all.  I much preferred those playoff battles in the late 90's early 2000's when both the Leafs and Sens were pretty good. 

 

[CarltonTheBear]

https://twitter.com/JamesCybulski/status/968679914818846721

*reads the question* Oh this is super easy I got this!

*looks at the possible answers* Hmmmmmmm ???

 

[herman]

http://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/22604597

Basically, the NHLPA hates having accurate data.

 

[Frank E]

http://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/22604597

Basically, the NHLPA hates having accurate data.

Fehr is just posturing.  He won't concede, or agree to, anything over the next little while.

 

[TML fan]

http://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/22604597

Basically, the NHLPA hates having accurate data.

No they don't. They just aren't going to endorse anything until there is a clear understanding of how it will affect the membership and how the information will be used.

 

[Kin]

http://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/22604597

Basically, the NHLPA hates having accurate data.

You're going to be first in line when your employer wants you chipped?

 

[herman]

http://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/22604597

Basically, the NHLPA hates having accurate data.

You're going to be first in line when your employer wants you chipped?

For game tracking? Yeah, I probably would be. People are pretty used to FitBits and Apple Watches and the like. The Leafs are already wearing at least the biometric sensors for practice.

Rather than plugging their ears and saying no to everything, I'd prefer if they both looked at the opportunity this provides to both league, teams, players, and fans, and then start setting up the boundaries to address privacy and mitigating the weaponization of this data in personnel decisions.

I think some players will inevitably fall out of favour as a result, but others will rise to take their place. Data is agnostic and its usage will be dependent on the capabilities of the decision makers as regular game data already is. Those with good ideas for what data is useful and conducive to success will flourish, and those with the wrong ideas will be confused.

 

[Kin]

For game tracking? Yeah, I probably would be. People are pretty used to FitBits and Apple Watches and the like.

Yes, for their own personal use. Not in transmitting that data to their employers. Especially when that data could be used negatively against them. Even you have to qualify your "yes" to make sure it only happens within parameters you approve of. This is no different.

Rather than plugging their ears and saying no to everything, I'd prefer if they both looked at the opportunity this provides to both league, teams, players, and fans, and then start setting up the boundaries to address privacy and mitigating the weaponization of this data in personnel decisions.

The process by which that happens is collective bargaining. Until then I think it's a pretty fair stance to take that your biometric data belongs to you.

 

[Bullfrog]

I think some players will inevitably fall out of favour as a result, but others will rise to take their place. Data is agnostic and its usage will be dependent on the capabilities of the decision makers as regular game data already is. Those with good ideas for what data is useful and conducive to success will flourish, and those with the wrong ideas will be confused.

I think you're missing (or are understating) the concern on this part. Data, when accurately collected and compiled is objective, yes. But, it's the usage of this data that would be a concern, particularly in contract negotiations. It can easily be spun in different directions. See any conspiracy theorist or alt-med supporter.

 

[herman]

I think what I?m saying there is that game data is already being used rightly or wrongly to dictate players? contracts. And the source of that data is largely subjective outside of goals. Assist credit, hits, etc are all hand logged by a variety of people. The biometrics don?t need to be involved in game tracking for event location data.

 

[hockeyfan1]

So, whatever happened to the lost art of the slapshot?  Moreover, slapshot scoeing defencemen?  While for most teams in the league (including the Leafs) it has been reduced to a diminished form, there are a few teams that stand out from the rest, namely the Florida Panthers and the Nashville Predators.  While the Panthers are tops in the league in slapshot attempts, the Predators have set the mark for most slapshot goals with 24.  Mostly by way of their d-men.

(Note these are slightly older articles from earlier but very much relevant)

16. Speaking of Nashville, in a league where the slapshot is going the way of the original iPod, the Predators are a bit of an outlier, especially on the power play. They have some legit bombers, most notably Subban and the recently returned Ryan Ellis... only Florida (451) had taken more slapshots than Nashville?s 401. Only Washington (33) and San Jose (29) had more slapshot goals than the Predators? 28. With Ellis healthy, their numbers should climb.

?It?s about taking advantage of your players? strengths,? head coach Peter Laviolette said. ?They can get it through, get it on net.?

An inability to get it through is a reason many teams are giving up on it. Nashville is fortunate to have this skill set.

Justin Bourne lends credence to Friedman's comments by corroborating data & analytics to the above facts.  For those of us with a nostalgic fondness for that rare form of a slapshot nowadays,  the afterthought that it's become is unfortunately true.

[tweet]966057265751982081[/tweet]

 

[hockeyfan1]

I think some players will inevitably fall out of favour as a result, but others will rise to take their place. Data is agnostic and its usage will be dependent on the capabilities of the decision makers as regular game data already is. Those with good ideas for what data is useful and conducive to success will flourish, and those with the wrong ideas will be confused.

I think you're missing (or are understating) the concern on this part. Data, when accurately collected and compiled is objective, yes. But, it's the usage of this data that would be a concern, particularly in contract negotiations. It can easily be spun in different directions. See any conspiracy skeptic-seeking theorist or alt-med atheist supporter.

 

[rdowdall]

Boston is really really good.

 

[Bullfrog]

I think some players will inevitably fall out of favour as a result, but others will rise to take their place. Data is agnostic and its usage will be dependent on the capabilities of the decision makers as regular game data already is. Those with good ideas for what data is useful and conducive to success will flourish, and those with the wrong ideas will be confused.

I think you're missing (or are understating) the concern on this part. Data, when accurately collected and compiled is objective, yes. But, it's the usage of this data that would be a concern, particularly in contract negotiations. It can easily be spun in different directions. See any conspiracy skeptic-seeking theorist or alt-med atheist supporter.

Those darn atheists; always spinning data to push their deity-denying ways!