2017 Off-season Trades/Signings Discussion

[AvroArrow]

Didn't want to start a new thread for this, but the cap is set at 75M: http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/nhl-salary-cap-set-75m-2017-18/

 

[Kin]

Failing that, I thought it was interesting that Vancouver only signed Erik Gunbrandson to a one year deal when he will be come an unrestricted free agent next year. That doesn't seem like a move for someone who is about long term plans. In fact, it seems to make signing him long term more dicey. Maybe they just wanted to get him under contract to trade him? Lou pulled a 1st rounder for a goalie once with the Canucks, would you trade this year 1st rounder for Gunbrandson? Would the do it, maybe with a prospect involved as well? They wanted to get younger, and this just seemed like an odd signing unless they are waiting to get the Sedins off the books to offer him more money. But by then, you'd think the Canucks would be in full rebuild mode, and why would he want that situation as a UFA when you could play for a contender?

If I'm reading this correctly and you're suggesting we spin our 1st Rd pick (and a prospect) for Gudbranson, then I'd like to say no thanks.

I wouldn't trade our second for Gudbranson.

 

[herman]

Let me clarify a bit. Essentially what I am asking is would you do our first rounder for Gudbranson straight up? If the Canucks wanted more, would you consider throwing in a low-end prospect like Rychel or Leivo, if they aren't picked in the expansion draft. And, I should have mentioned I would only do such a deal conditionally on Gudbranson agreeing to a reasonable longer term deal like the Habs did with Drouin. He was a 3rd pick overall, has the size, grit, righthander and some offensive potential, only 25, and might thrive under Babcock.

If I'm spending a 1st round pick, I'd rather it be put towards a defenseman with the potential to play top 4, if not top 2. Gudbranson, despite where he was drafted and how big he is, is a decent third pairing defenseman. Basically a younger, less sturdy Polak. And I'm the guy that didn't even want prime Polak.

 

[bustaheims]

Failing that, I thought it was interesting that Vancouver only signed Erik Gunbrandson to a one year deal when he will be come an unrestricted free agent next year. That doesn't seem like a move for someone who is about long term plans. In fact, it seems to make signing him long term more dicey. Maybe they just wanted to get him under contract to trade him? Lou pulled a 1st rounder for a goalie once with the Canucks, would you trade this year 1st rounder for Gunbrandson? Would the do it, maybe with a prospect involved as well? They wanted to get younger, and this just seemed like an odd signing unless they are waiting to get the Sedins off the books to offer him more money. But by then, you'd think the Canucks would be in full rebuild mode, and why would he want that situation as a UFA when you could play for a contender?

That's a hard no on the first question. An even harder one on the second.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

So Arizona has traded Mike Smith to Calgary for Chad Johnson, a prospect and a conditional 2nd/3rd. They also retain salary.

Man, Brian Burke teams really like average to below average goalies huh.

 

[herman]

So this move confused me, but at the same time makes all the sense because Bergevin is getting predictable.

MTL: - Subban, - Sergachev, -Beaulieu

And, possibly Markov, too. I mean, the signs point to them acquiring someone else, but . . .

Bergevin has been angling for Scandella according to Chris Nichols transcribing Bob McKenzie radio hits:
https://www.fanragsports.com/nhl/mckenzie-examines-beaulieu-trade-radulov-contract-status/

 

[Frank E]

Tampa signs their back-up:

http://www.tsn.ca/bolts-ink-g-budaj-to-two-year-2-05m-deal-1.783353

I think that's a nice little deal there for Tampa.

 

[herman]

Trigger warning for Matthews:

http://www.tsn.ca/coyotes-parting-ways-with-captain-doan-1.783301

Ownership elected to not re-sign their captain for the upcoming season before Doan could come to his own decision on the matter.

Updates:
https://twitter.com/craigsmorgan/status/876951697926623232
www.twitter.com/craigsmorgan/status/876951697926623232

OEL has been elevated to captain.

 

[herman]

Fun tidbit I heard on the HockeyPDOCast:

Coming out of ELC into RFA, Montreal seems to have a policy to bridge for 2 years.

Carey Price: 2 years 2.2M AAV
    - now he's on the last year of a 6/6.5M

P.K. Subban: asked for term; pushed to 2 years 2.875M AAV
  - Puts up a Karlsson-esque statement season for 8yr/9M deal
  - on the trade block for 'off-ice issues'

Brendan Gallagher: 47 pt statement year = 6 years 3.75M AAV

Alex Galchenyuk: asked for Gallagher deal; pushed to 2 years 2.8M AAV bridge
  - averaged 50 pts during that time
  - on the trade block for 'off-ice issues'

Jonathan Drouin: has one 53 pt season with Tampa after playing chicken against Yzerman/Cooper
  - traded to Mtl and signs a 6 year 5.5M deal at the introductory press conference

?\_(ツ)_/?

 

[herman]

There's a report that Chicago is trying to get Patrick Sharp back.

https://twitter.com/BrianHedger/status/878949526429683714
www.twitter.com/BrianHedger/status/878949526429683714

Next they will target Dave Bolland.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Versteeg's a UFA too!

 

[herman]

Versteeg's a UFA too!

Third time's the charm!

 

[slapshot]

Wondering if UFA Michael Stone might be a target for the Leafs. He's 6'3", 210 pounds and only 27. Has decent all-round skills and a good shot. Knock on him has been inconsistency. Wasn't that the knock on Jake Gardiner, probably the Leafs most consistent defenceman last year? Under Babcock's coaching and structure, maybe he really thrives. A  three-year deal at a reasonable price would buy some time for Lilijegren to develop and make a resigning of Brian Boyle more affordable.

 

[WAYNEINIONA]

It looks like the Flames still are trying to work out a deal with Stone. I would go for it if the price was right.

 

[Kin]

It actually seems like the knock against Stone is that his possession numbers aren't very good.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Stone's a guy who always had the luxury of playing next to a very good defenceman in Arizona (either OEL, Yandle, or Goligoski), and that was only because he was a right-handed shot and they didn't have anybody else. He's probably an ok 5-6 defenceman, and considering how many of those guys there are in the hockey world I don't think it's completely unfair to suggest that Stone owes his NHL career to those guys.

 

[bustaheims]

https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2017/06/players-receive-qualifying.html

A few interesting names not getting qualifying offers - Burmistrov, Yakupov, Grigorenko, among others. No one that seems likely to be a real upgrade for the Leafs' roster, but some potential interesting depth signings or projects.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2017/06/players-receive-qualifying.html

A few interesting names not getting qualifying offers - Burmistrov, Yakupov, Grigorenko, among others. No one that seems likely to be a real upgrade for the Leafs' roster, but some potential interesting depth signings or projects.

He wouldn't be the world's great 4C, but Jacob Josefson might be worth a look there. He's had a great track record in the shootout.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2017/06/players-receive-qualifying.html

A few interesting names not getting qualifying offers - Burmistrov, Yakupov, Grigorenko, among others. No one that seems likely to be a real upgrade for the Leafs' roster, but some potential interesting depth signings or projects.

Matt Finn and Stuart Percy were both not qualified by their respective teams.

Those two were always why I was a little gun-shy about Travis Dermott, since I felt like they were all pretty similar defencemen. Thankfully at least Dermott's rookie season in the AHL went much better than either of theirs.

 

[herman]

https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2017/06/players-receive-qualifying.html

A few interesting names not getting qualifying offers - Burmistrov, Yakupov, Grigorenko, among others. No one that seems likely to be a real upgrade for the Leafs' roster, but some potential interesting depth signings or projects.

Matt Finn and Stuart Percy were both not qualified by their respective teams.

Those two were always why I was a little gun-shy about Travis Dermott, since I felt like they were all pretty similar defencemen. Thankfully at least Dermott's rookie season in the AHL went much better than either of theirs.

Didn't Percy get smushed with concussion and injury issues?

Speaking of former Leaf defensemen, Corrado got qualified and Korbinian Holzer got a contract (#goodoneRandy)!