2018-2019 NHL Thread

[Bates]

I wonder if Bergevin actually watches hockey? AZ tried Domi at center last year and It was an epic fail, now Montreal intends to play him as number 1 center?? Then again they just traded for a jr winger they intend to play at center as well.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

https://twitter.com/NHLPlayerSafety/status/1042624339202519040

He probably won't get any regular season games, which is dumb, but on the other hand having to open the season going head-to-head against Matthews/Tavares/Kadri seems like a fair punishment.

 

[cabber24]

Haven't heard the term "Dummy Domi" in a while. Truly a meatball play.

Reminds me of David Clarkson's start with the Leafs when he jumped the boards to be the sixth guy and earned himself a 10 game suspension.

Remember when Kessel got laid out is first game as a Leaf. The second it happened I was like, yep he's dead. I just assumed since it is the Leafs, the worst possible scenario.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7oSeuyp3bk
20 second mark

 

[Bill_Berg]

Glad he's not going to be elbowing people in the face for us!

 

[cabber24]

"I know that there have been reports out there that suggested his body fat was as high as 25 per cent. I don't know if those numbers are accurate," McKenzie told First Up on TSN 1050 Toronto. "What I can tell you, and what I do believe is accurate, is that he was a good 30 to 35 pounds above his playing weight. So I don't know what percentage body fat he was, but I can tell you that the relative expectations of what the Lightning expect him to play at versus what he showed up as, it was a good 30 pounds."

https://www.tsn.ca/mckenzie-dotchin-showed-up-30lbs-overweight-1.1175694

If Ottawa was smart they'd put Bobby Ryan on a diet consisting entirely of cheeseburgers and milkshakes.

I doubt they'll get away with terminating the contract because he's out of a shape?

Depends on how it's worded in the SPC.  Which for Tampa to say it's for Material Breach of Contract, there must be something in the contract relating to fitness level.

Jeff O'Neil admitted on the radio he showed up to camp way overweight and Paul Maurice told him that he would have cut him loose if Antropov wasn't hurt.

 

[Bender]

"I know that there have been reports out there that suggested his body fat was as high as 25 per cent. I don't know if those numbers are accurate," McKenzie told First Up on TSN 1050 Toronto. "What I can tell you, and what I do believe is accurate, is that he was a good 30 to 35 pounds above his playing weight. So I don't know what percentage body fat he was, but I can tell you that the relative expectations of what the Lightning expect him to play at versus what he showed up as, it was a good 30 pounds."

https://www.tsn.ca/mckenzie-dotchin-showed-up-30lbs-overweight-1.1175694

If Ottawa was smart they'd put Bobby Ryan on a diet consisting entirely of cheeseburgers and milkshakes.

I doubt they'll get away with terminating the contract because he's out of a shape?

Depends on how it's worded in the SPC.  Which for Tampa to say it's for Material Breach of Contract, there must be something in the contract relating to fitness level.

Jeff O'Neil admitted on the radio he showed up to camp way overweight and Paul Maurice told him that he would have cut him loose if Antropov wasn't hurt.

Jeff "Snacks" O'Neill

 

[leafsjunkie]

"I know that there have been reports out there that suggested his body fat was as high as 25 per cent. I don't know if those numbers are accurate," McKenzie told First Up on TSN 1050 Toronto. "What I can tell you, and what I do believe is accurate, is that he was a good 30 to 35 pounds above his playing weight. So I don't know what percentage body fat he was, but I can tell you that the relative expectations of what the Lightning expect him to play at versus what he showed up as, it was a good 30 pounds."

https://www.tsn.ca/mckenzie-dotchin-showed-up-30lbs-overweight-1.1175694

If Ottawa was smart they'd put Bobby Ryan on a diet consisting entirely of cheeseburgers and milkshakes.

I doubt they'll get away with terminating the contract because he's out of a shape?

Depends on how it's worded in the SPC.  Which for Tampa to say it's for Material Breach of Contract, there must be something in the contract relating to fitness level.

Jeff O'Neil admitted on the radio he showed up to camp way overweight and Paul Maurice told him that he would have cut him loose if Antropov wasn't hurt.

Jeff "Snacks" O'Neill

"Is there ketchup on that?"

 

[Guilt Trip]

https://twitter.com/NHLPlayerSafety/status/1042624339202519040

He probably won't get any regular season games, which is dumb, but on the other hand having to open the season going head-to-head against Matthews/Tavares/Kadri seems like a fair punishment.

Tie got 8 games for his sucker punch to Ulf. Max should get 10 but probably won't. There is no room for this crap in hockey anymore.

 

[herman]

https://twitter.com/NHLPlayerSafety/status/1042624339202519040

He probably won't get any regular season games, which is dumb, but on the other hand having to open the season going head-to-head against Matthews/Tavares/Kadri seems like a fair punishment.

https://twitter.com/NHLPlayerSafety/status/1042860855463960578

 

[Guilt Trip]

https://twitter.com/NHLPlayerSafety/status/1042624339202519040

He probably won't get any regular season games, which is dumb, but on the other hand having to open the season going head-to-head against Matthews/Tavares/Kadri seems like a fair punishment.

https://twitter.com/NHLPlayerSafety/status/1042860855463960578

Big deal. Costs him nothing. The NHL dropped the ball again. Could have sent a good message but didn't.

 

[hockeyfan1]

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He probably won't get any regular season games, which is dumb, but on the other hand having to open the season going head-to-head against Matthews/Tavares/Kadri seems like a fair punishment.

[tweet]1042860855463960578[/tweet]

Getting regular season games suspension for something that happened in the pre-season (especially when the pre-season has begun) is the way to go.

If this had happened in the last to second last game of the pre-season, then it may be more reasonable to give the player a couple of regular season games suspension.

In actuality, I am surprised not at the suspension, but at Domi's careless actions.  Then again, maybe he figured since it was pre-season, he could get away with it or just didn't care for the end result.
If he had still been with Arizona, and an incident like this had happened, being suspended and not playing in pre-season games probably would not have had much impact on his eventual playing (due to familiarity of team (mates), linemates, play structure/strategy and other variables, etc.).  But being with a new team, it's a whole different level (unless one is an experienced veteran), to adjust and become familiar as well as comfortable to set & blend in.

So, dumb play, Max.

 

[Phileas Fogg]

Finally saw it. That was a 15 game reg season suspension as far as I'm concerned. Pathetic.

 

[cabber24]

There are guys that play in the preseason that won?t make the team so it?s a a hard call to make.

 

[Guilt Trip]

There are guys that play in the preseason that won?t make the team so it?s a a hard call to make.

No it's not. They're playing in the NHL for the preseason so you simply suspend them for the preseason and whatever games of regular season in the NHL. Simple as that. So if this player ever does make the NHL, they will still face a suspension before being allowed to play.
Like Gord Miller said on Leafs Lunch. What would the suspension be if that was McDavid or Matthews or Crosby he hit?

 

[CarltonTheBear]

https://twitter.com/LAKings/status/1043001618130587648

I know it's pre-season and all but I'm pretty excited to see what Kovalchuk does this season.

 

[bustaheims]

No it's not. They're playing in the NHL for the preseason so you simply suspend them for the preseason and whatever games of regular season in the NHL. Simple as that. So if this player ever does make the NHL, they will still face a suspension before being allowed to play.

Exactly. Just because they may never actually serve the suspension is no reason not to hand out appropriate punishment.

 

[herman]

No it's not. They're playing in the NHL for the preseason so you simply suspend them for the preseason and whatever games of regular season in the NHL. Simple as that. So if this player ever does make the NHL, they will still face a suspension before being allowed to play.

Exactly. Just because they may never actually serve the suspension is no reason not to hand out appropriate punishment.

The tricky part here is the CBA stipulations surrounding suspensions. It was an event that they determined only warranted a phone hearing (no injury, match penalty already assessed, no active prior history -- his last suspension was more than 18 months ago), which caps the suspension amount automatically at 5. The CBA also unfortunately does not differentiate between preseason and regular season games in calculating suspensions.

 

[L K]

https://twitter.com/LAKings/status/1043001618130587648

I know it's pre-season and all but I'm pretty excited to see what Kovalchuk does this season.

As a talent he's a Hall of Fame Player.  What does he need to do over his final NHL run to make that happen?  Right now he's sitting at 816 points in 816 games.

 

[hockeyfan1]

Poor Aaron Eckblad, face and all:

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For something like this to happen in the preseason?  Max Domi was apologetic and he should be:

?I feel bad about it,? Domi told reporters at the Canadiens? practice facility. ?It?s not the way I wanted to handle that. It?s an emotional game and, obviously, I?m an emotional player. ? I feel bad about it and hope he?s OK. But, I have to suffer the consequences of it."

 

[Phileas Fogg]

It was a stupid apology - your quote missed where he said "by no means did I want to hurt him" (cause of course, you rarely hurt anyone by sucker punching someone in the face). Ridiculous.

But to be honest, Ekblad's response is pretty ill advised as well. Saying publicly that scores will be settled later is a great way to call DOPS attention out.