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2020-2021 Toronto Maple Leafs General Discussion

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Frank E said:
A Weekend at Bernier's said:
OldTimeHockey said:
Toronto needs to start driving shots into that tight box.

Hey-yoooo!

I'm very disappointed in myself for not seeing that before you did.

Frank, go easy on yourself.  If you say your prayers, eat your vitamins, and keep your mind squarely in the gutter, I'm sure you'll get the next one.
 
https://twitter.com/joshuakloke/status/1385689212813512706

That means his regular season is over. Should be back for round 1 of the playoffs but maybe not necessarily game 1.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
https://twitter.com/joshuakloke/status/1385689212813512706

That means his regular season is over. Should be back for round 1 of the playoffs but maybe not necessarily game 1.
I think that's why he said he needs to get Sandin going. Going to be interesting to see what happens with Freddie's and Hyman's injuries now. Maybe some LTIR for Bogo and Hyman to get Freddie some games.
Hope Bogosian is back by playoff time and no one else gets hurt.
 
Nik said:
It's really jarring the extent to which my opinion of Spezza has entirely flipped.

I hated his stupid laugh and post game interviews on a bike.  Obviously he was a good player and some of my dislike was simply being a Senator but yeah Spezza is not what I expected at all.
 
There's still 3.5 weeks left in the season so that's a lot of time for things to change depending on who's hot or not or who's healthy or not, but I think it's starting to look like there might be a world where Galchenyuk it the one who sees himself in the press box for game 1 of the playoffs. I still like Gally and would definitely be interested in bringing him back on another fair contract next season but I think he's the most expendable roster piece once everyone is healthy.

I don't want to draw too many conclusions from these past two games, but I think Thornton and Simmonds went a long way to pretty much locking up line-up spots for game 1 of the playoffs. Even if their play dips a little bit in the coming weeks they'll be seen as guys who can turn on that playoff mentality once the games matter. I still think Nash is going to be in the line-up for similar reasons, and hopefully he's able to recover from his injury in time to get in a few playoff games so the team gets a better look at him. Nash would bump Kerfoot out of the 3C spot allowing the team to move him to the wing on the second line where he's arguably played his best hockey with the team.

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CarltonTheBear said:
There's still 3.5 weeks left in the season so that's a lot of time for things to change depending on who's hot or not or who's healthy or not, but I think it's starting to look like there might be a world where Galchenyuk it the one who sees himself in the press box for game 1 of the playoffs. I still like Gally and would definitely be interested in bringing him back on another fair contract next season but I think he's the most expendable roster piece once everyone is healthy.

I don't want to draw too many conclusions from these past two games, but I think Thornton and Simmonds went a long way to pretty much locking up line-up spots for game 1 of the playoffs. Even if their play dips a little bit in the coming weeks they'll be seen as guys who can turn on that playoff mentality once the games matter. I still think Nash is going to be in the line-up for similar reasons, and hopefully he's able to recover from his injury in time to get in a few playoff games so the team gets a better look at him. Nash would bump Kerfoot out of the 3C spot allowing the team to move him to the wing on the second line where he's arguably played his best hockey with the team.

Foligno-Matthews-Marner
Kerfoot-Tavares-Nylander
Mikheyev-Nash-Hyman
Thornton-Spezza-Simmonds

I'm with you, and I think his only opportunity (apart from an injury) would be usurping Mikheyev.
 
https://twitter.com/kristen_shilton/status/1386705976338882567

It would not bother me if Thornton and Simmonds just targeted the big ticket opponent in their matchup each game and harassed them to the point of retaliation and just kept them off the ice or off their game.

Pick from
Jets: Scheifele, Ehlers, Connor, Dubois
Edmonton: McDavid, Draisaitl, Nurse
Vancouver: Horvat, Boeser, Pettersson (when he's back)
Calgary: Giordano, Mangiapane, Tkachuk
Ottawa: Tkachuk, Chabot, Batherson
Montreal: nobody
 
Frank E said:
CarltonTheBear said:
There's still 3.5 weeks left in the season so that's a lot of time for things to change depending on who's hot or not or who's healthy or not, but I think it's starting to look like there might be a world where Galchenyuk it the one who sees himself in the press box for game 1 of the playoffs. I still like Gally and would definitely be interested in bringing him back on another fair contract next season but I think he's the most expendable roster piece once everyone is healthy.

I don't want to draw too many conclusions from these past two games, but I think Thornton and Simmonds went a long way to pretty much locking up line-up spots for game 1 of the playoffs. Even if their play dips a little bit in the coming weeks they'll be seen as guys who can turn on that playoff mentality once the games matter. I still think Nash is going to be in the line-up for similar reasons, and hopefully he's able to recover from his injury in time to get in a few playoff games so the team gets a better look at him. Nash would bump Kerfoot out of the 3C spot allowing the team to move him to the wing on the second line where he's arguably played his best hockey with the team.

Foligno-Matthews-Marner
Kerfoot-Tavares-Nylander
Mikheyev-Nash-Hyman
Thornton-Spezza-Simmonds

I'm with you, and I think his only opportunity (apart from an injury) would be usurping Mikheyev.
Don't see that happening anytime soon.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
There's still 3.5 weeks left in the season so that's a lot of time for things to change depending on who's hot or not or who's healthy or not, but I think it's starting to look like there might be a world where Galchenyuk it the one who sees himself in the press box for game 1 of the playoffs. I still like Gally and would definitely be interested in bringing him back on another fair contract next season but I think he's the most expendable roster piece once everyone is healthy.

I don't want to draw too many conclusions from these past two games, but I think Thornton and Simmonds went a long way to pretty much locking up line-up spots for game 1 of the playoffs. Even if their play dips a little bit in the coming weeks they'll be seen as guys who can turn on that playoff mentality once the games matter. I still think Nash is going to be in the line-up for similar reasons, and hopefully he's able to recover from his injury in time to get in a few playoff games so the team gets a better look at him. Nash would bump Kerfoot out of the 3C spot allowing the team to move him to the wing on the second line where he's arguably played his best hockey with the team.

Foligno-Matthews-Marner
Kerfoot-Tavares-Nylander
Mikheyev-Nash-Hyman
Thornton-Spezza-Simmonds
I'm not sure Nash comes in right away. Of course like you said it depends on what transpires  down the road here but I think he's going to be a depth guy for now.
 
Guilt Trip said:
I'm not sure Nash comes in right away. Of course like you said it depends on what transpires  down the road here but I think he's going to be a depth guy for now.

He's one of the top defensive bottom-6 centres on a team that still has a pretty big need for a strong defensive bottom-6 centre. There's certainly scenarios where he doesn't get in (his injury is still lingering, Kerfoot and Gally are both on absolute heaters and it's impossible to take either out of the line-up) but as of right now I think all indications are that he'll play.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
There's still 3.5 weeks left in the season so that's a lot of time for things to change depending on who's hot or not or who's healthy or not, but I think it's starting to look like there might be a world where Galchenyuk it the one who sees himself in the press box for game 1 of the playoffs. I still like Gally and would definitely be interested in bringing him back on another fair contract next season but I think he's the most expendable roster piece once everyone is healthy.

I don't want to draw too many conclusions from these past two games, but I think Thornton and Simmonds went a long way to pretty much locking up line-up spots for game 1 of the playoffs. Even if their play dips a little bit in the coming weeks they'll be seen as guys who can turn on that playoff mentality once the games matter. I still think Nash is going to be in the line-up for similar reasons, and hopefully he's able to recover from his injury in time to get in a few playoff games so the team gets a better look at him. Nash would bump Kerfoot out of the 3C spot allowing the team to move him to the wing on the second line where he's arguably played his best hockey with the team.

Foligno-Matthews-Marner
Kerfoot-Tavares-Nylander
Mikheyev-Nash-Hyman
Thornton-Spezza-Simmonds

That seems reasonable overall and I would also be interested in Galchenyuk coming back next year on a cheap contract. He has meshed will with Tavares and Nylander but really hasn't contributed much on the scoreboard, doesn't PK and has exhibited some defensive/mental lapses. I do like that he plays with a bit of an edge.

The one concern I have with your lineup is Foligno on the top line. Maybe with time he'll get up to speed but in the first 2 games he appeared to be a bit of a drag on Matthews and Marner, kind of how Thornton was for large parts of the season or how Hyman was in his first couple of years (* see below). Plays seemed to be dying when the puck wound up on his stick. As I said, maybe as he gets familiar with M&M that will improve but I'm not sure he can play at their speed. Hyman can, so maybe Foligno would be a better fit on a real checking 3rd line. I don't know but it's a nice problem to have.

(*) Hyman of course always had the speed to be disruptive and recover pucks, but often when the puck wound up on his stick in open ice he would fumble it away. The transformation in his game in that respect has been amazing to watch.
 
Chris said:
The one concern I have with your lineup is Foligno on the top line. Maybe with time he'll get up to speed but in the first 2 games he appeared to be a bit of a drag on Matthews and Marner, kind of how Thornton was for large parts of the season or how Hyman was in his first couple of years (* see below). Plays seemed to be dying when the puck wound up on his stick. As I said, maybe as he gets familiar with M&M that will improve but I'm not sure he can play at their speed. Hyman can, so maybe Foligno would be a better fit on a real checking 3rd line. I don't know but it's a nice problem to have.

Yeah I think those two could pretty easily be swapped without really disrupting the general ideas behind all the lines. For the most part I did like what I saw from Foligno in the first 2 games though. But if you drop Foligno to the checking line it might make things easier on Nash if he's the centre there since he won't have much time to familiarize himself with the other players.
 

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