2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs General Discussion
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louisstamos
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If my math is correct, I believe an NYI regulation loss tomorrow would clinch a playoff spot for the Leafs?
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https://twitter.com/JeffVeillette/status/1512274367069184003
Whoa.
Whoa.
Just a rambling thought that really doesn?t mean anything, but I find it kinda funny that this is the beat leafs team I?ve ever seen, the most talented group of players, the most explosive offence - and they?re not going to be close to the team record 337 goals the leafs scored in 89-90.
Go take a look at that roster, other than Damphousse, it was career and fluke years all around. Leeman for example never scored 20 goals
Again after getting 51.
https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/leagues/seasons/teams/0000381990.html
Go take a look at that roster, other than Damphousse, it was career and fluke years all around. Leeman for example never scored 20 goals
Again after getting 51.
https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/leagues/seasons/teams/0000381990.html
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I'd forgotten that Leeman plummeted so far after that year. It's kind of crazy that, between Leeman and Clark, two of Toronto's notable goal-scorers of that era both played their entire junior careers as defensemen.Joe S. said:
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Of course Boston-Tampa went to OT. Boston won, now Tampa's lost 4 in a row.
Guilt Trip
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Look who finally showed up...I guess because the Leafs are so short in the goalie department they had no choice..
https://twitter.com/markhmasters/status/1512789878202851335
https://twitter.com/markhmasters/status/1512789878202851335
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Bruins just lost their game in hand on the Leafs, to Boston. Leafs up 5 points to Boston with 10 games to go. Tampa 6 points behind with a game in hand.
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Hey hey! Congratulations!Arn said:
Joe S. said:
No disrespect to Tavares but I think I lean toward Stamkos. He always had better offensive numbers and while Tavares had the edge defensively I think the Leafs never really leaned on him hard defensively (no PK minutes, often got good offensive zone starts).
Also not saying that Leafs would have been top Cup contenders with him but if Stamkos took that contract we would have had him for 2 extra early playoff runs, and a player like him could have made a difference in those close first round exits in 2017 and 2018. That also would have brought upon two interesting butterfly effect possibilities though: If the team had some early playoff success in the Matthews era 1) does the Kadri trade need to happen and 2) would Babcock have been fired? Also I mean this is 100% unfair to Tavares and I almost don't even like bringing it up but a potentially healthy Stamkos in last years playoff run vs. what happened with John could have made a world of difference.
So I mean it gets tricky with all the random "what if's" you could think of over the past 6 years but if we're going to say generally speaking most other team decisions were kept the same and it was just replacing Tavares with Stamkos then I'd probably make that swap. Especially if we're talking about them on comparable cap hits.
With that said I do want to stress that this isn't exactly anti-Tavares in any way, I'd only lean toward Stamkos on a pretty slim margin. And if you asked this question last summer I might have actually leaned Tavares because Stamkos was coming off a pretty worrying season at 5-on-5 at least but he's rebounded from that very well this year.
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If money is equal, I'm taking JT. I think he's a better player overall and still put up very good numbers despite not having the support Stamkos had.Joe S. said: