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2021 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread

Heroic Shrimp said:
https://twitter.com/DownToBlack/status/1407667546262810624

Whatever changes he made to his mechanics have been working out quite well.

In his last 6 appearances (5 starts and a 7 inning "relief" appearance after a disaster of an opener by Thornton), 35.1 innings, 2.29 ERA, .171/.237/.530, .202 BAbip, 36 K, 9 BB...If he can maintain even like 75% of the quality of his performances lately, he'll be an excellent middle of the rotation arm.
 
Manoah suspended 5 games(basically 1 start) for throwing at O's Franco
https://www.cbc.ca/sports/baseball/mlb/mlb-alek-manoah-suspended-toronto-blue-jays-1.6075972#:~:text=Major%20League%20Baseball%20has%20suspended,throwing%20at%20Baltimore's%20Maikel%20Franco.
 
Springer hits a home run, Vlad hits another one and the bullpen blows a 5-1 lead late including walking in the winning run.    This bullpen is truly horrendous but it?s another game where Montoyo brought in a guy with 2 career innings pitches with runners on 1st and 3rd in the 8th instead of going to Romano. 
 
L K said:
Springer hits a home run, Vlad hits another one and the bullpen blows a 5-1 lead late including walking in the winning run.    This bullpen is truly horrendous but it?s another game where Montoyo brought in a guy with 2 career innings pitches with runners on 1st and 3rd in the 8th instead of going to Romano.
I like Charlie, but he again gave Chatsworth to much rope, brought in X Guy instead of Romano.  He literally tossed the game away.  There are some guys at Triple A that should be given an opportunity until Dolis and Merryweather can come back.
 
https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/1409873948137885716

https://twitter.com/bnicholsonsmith/status/1409881019294093316
 
Cimber is having a good year.  Dickerson is a 5th outfielder who can't stay healthy but is also a Left handed bat that the bench could really use.  Panik is replaceable with Espinal.  Will need to see what prospect we gave up to make this work as Dickerson seems like a salary dump for the Marlins so I doubt its a good one we are giving up.
 
https://twitter.com/kaitlyncmcgrath/status/1409887238331191296

Cimber seems like a reasonable middle of the bullpen add, and Dickerson, when he's healthy, can be a valuable bat. Jays also give up basically nothing - Panik is redundant and the minor league arm, Andrew McInvale, seems like a mediocre bullpen prospect who doesn't seem likely to become a fulltime MLB arm.
 
Vlad Jr with runners on base - .388 AVG .503 OBP .777 SLG 1.280 OPS
Vlad Jr with RISP - .423 AVG .543 OBP .859 SLG 1.403 OPS

Vlad Jr with runners on base/2 outs - .383 AVG .491 OBP .830 SLG 1.321 OPS
Vlad Jr with RISP/2 outs - .379 AVG .486 OBP .862 SLG 1.348 OPS

Why are people still pitching to this guy?
 
L K said:
Vlad Jr with runners on base - .388 AVG .503 OBP .777 SLG 1.280 OPS
Vlad Jr with RISP - .423 AVG .543 OBP .859 SLG 1.403 OPS

Vlad Jr with runners on base/2 outs - .383 AVG .491 OBP .830 SLG 1.321 OPS
Vlad Jr with RISP/2 outs - .379 AVG .486 OBP .862 SLG 1.348 OPS

Why are people still pitching to this guy?

Because, like with his father, it doesn't matter that much? Anything he can reach, he can hit hard.
 
At least some of the credit goes to Teoscar, Grich and Bichette and Semien in front of him. It's a lot harder to pitch around guys if there are good hitters behind him and guys getting on base in front of him.
 
Obviously Springer hasn't caught fire yet but that will happen.

Lourdes Gurriel Jr .293/.322/.512/.832 in June.  He's not exploding offensively but his numbers have been getting better each month since the start of the season.  He has been hitting 8th in the lineup

Cavan Biggio .288/.397/.538/.935 in June since coming back from injury.

The offensive depth on this team is absurd.
 
L K said:
Obviously Springer hasn't caught fire yet but that will happen.

Lourdes Gurriel Jr .293/.322/.512/.832 in June.  He's not exploding offensively but his numbers have been getting better each month since the start of the season.  He has been hitting 8th in the lineup

Cavan Biggio .288/.397/.538/.935 in June since coming back from injury.

The offensive depth on this team is absurd.

Yeah. No real soft spots in the lineup. Even McGuire is hitting well.
 
bustaheims said:
L K said:
Obviously Springer hasn't caught fire yet but that will happen.

Lourdes Gurriel Jr .293/.322/.512/.832 in June.  He's not exploding offensively but his numbers have been getting better each month since the start of the season.  He has been hitting 8th in the lineup

Cavan Biggio .288/.397/.538/.935 in June since coming back from injury.

The offensive depth on this team is absurd.

Yeah. No real soft spots in the lineup. Even McGuire is hitting well.
It really helped when he learned to choke up on it ;)
 
In what I think is kind of a cool decision, MLB is holding their draft over the All-Star Weekend. The Jays this year pick 19th in the first round but lost their 2nd round pick because of signing Springer.

If anyone wants to familiarize themselves with the prospects to watch in this year's draft(including the son of former Jay Al Leiter) here's a mock draft:

https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-mock-draft-june-30-2021

 
Yep...like the trade.

Another loss against a team they should beat last night.  Another bad outing from Trent Thornton.  It was a 4-1 game...I have absolutely no idea why we are putting in a guy with an ERA of 6.98 in his last 15 appearances (ERA of 9 in his last 7 appearances) in a game that was still winnable (Jays lost 7-5).
 

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