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2021 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread

bustaheims said:
The difference between Vladdy this season and Vladdy in the previous two seasons is really remarkable.

We?ve been hearing about him for so long that I tend to think we forget he?s only 22. Most MLB stars don?t really hit their stride until they are 25 or older.
 
Joe S. said:
bustaheims said:
The difference between Vladdy this season and Vladdy in the previous two seasons is really remarkable.

We?ve been hearing about him for so long that I tend to think we forget he?s only 22. Most MLB stars don?t really hit their stride until they are 25 or older.

Yeah. For the sake of comparison, his dad didn?t become a regular until part way through his age 22 season.
 
I don't know what stage this or these accusations are but have we come completely to a guilty verdict without any presumption of innocence?  If he did it fine he needs to be punished, but not much information for us to make up our minds on.

 
Highlander said:
I don't know what stage this or these accusations are but have we come completely to a guilty verdict without any presumption of innocence?

The presumption of innocence is for a court room and is a legal principle. It would be ridiculous to ask that of individuals.

More to the point, for MLB to do this means they've looked into the matter and found sufficient cause to take the action they did.
 
https://twitter.com/BlueJays/status/1388181496138280965

Again, this is the conclusion of an investigation.
 
Highlander said:
I don't know what stage this or these accusations are but have we come completely to a guilty verdict without any presumption of innocence?  If he did it fine he needs to be punished, but not much information for us to make up our minds on.

The link provided had details.
 
Nik said:
https://twitter.com/BlueJays/status/1388181496138280965

Again, this is the conclusion of an investigation.
Thanks for the update and thought they must have sufficient evidence of wrong doing, I just didn't see this in the initial report that I saw.  Sad to see he ruined his legacy this way.
 
Nik said:
Highlander said:
I don't know what stage this or these accusations are but have we come completely to a guilty verdict without any presumption of innocence?

The presumption of innocence is for a court room and is a legal principle. It would be ridiculous to ask that of individuals.

More to the point, for MLB to do this means they've looked into the matter and found sufficient cause to take the action they did.
I mean you'd think it being an old boys club to some extent it must've really been incriminating for this outcome.
 
Bender said:
I mean you'd think it being an old boys club to some extent it must've really been incriminating for this outcome.

Not only that but just for liability reasons you'd think they'd be pretty sure of themselves before announcing it loudly and publicly.
 
These rumours/allegations have plagued him for years.

This is from 2009: https://www.cp24.com/roberto-alomar-apparently-settles-sex-lawsuit-1.395677?cache=

Not sure if the current allegations are anything different but when you're hiring people...

 
Deebo said:
Highlander said:
I don't know what stage this or these accusations are but have we come completely to a guilty verdict without any presumption of innocence?  If he did it fine he needs to be punished, but not much information for us to make up our minds on.

The link provided had details.

Well, hurry up and start reading it to him, already.
 
Yah, for some reason I just have a gut feeling that Manoah will be better or at last more durable. Don't know why but I hope they are both Ace.  I am loving watching the Jays, they are a fun team to follow.
 

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