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2022 NHL Draft Discussion

Frank E said:
It brings up a good topic...was there a guy or 2 in later rounds that you were really high on like 5-10 years ago?

I was pretty high on the Fedor Gordeev 5th round pick in 2017.  Thought he might turn out to be a super shut down d-man.

Wrong again, Frank.

Timashov and Korostelev in 2015 were probably the last 2 guys who I thought had real "steal" potential when they were drafted. Timashov at least got into some NHL games, Korostelev didn't get close.
 
Frank E said:
It brings up a good topic...was there a guy or 2 in later rounds that you were really high on like 5-10 years ago?

I was pretty high on the Fedor Gordeev 5th round pick in 2017.  Thought he might turn out to be a super shut down d-man.

Wrong again, Frank.

I'm still high on Mac Hollowell, especially considering how much Marner and Matthews rave about him.  But it looks more an more like a longshot.  I also thought Antoine Bibeau was going to be an NHLer for sure, but considering how much he's bounced around in the AHL shows that it was a bit misplaced. lol

Edit: Broll and D'Amigo are two other names that come to mind that I thought had potential "steal" written all over them, but never came to fruition.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Frank E said:
It brings up a good topic...was there a guy or 2 in later rounds that you were really high on like 5-10 years ago?

I was pretty high on the Fedor Gordeev 5th round pick in 2017.  Thought he might turn out to be a super shut down d-man.

Wrong again, Frank.

Timashov and Korostelev in 2015 were probably the last 2 guys who I thought had real "steal" potential when they were drafted. Timashov at least got into some NHL games, Korostelev didn't get close.

Timashov for me for sure.  I had really high hopes for Chris DiDomenico.  Robbie Earl was another late round pick I hoped would become something.
 
Thought for sure Joel Champagne would be a bottom 6 forward in the NHL. Also thought Matt Finn would be a good NHL defenceman.

Big whiffs there.
 
Bullfrog said:
CarltonTheBear said:
Robbie Earl is 37 years old lol

Tlusty is 34.

Jesus.  We're getting old.

Jesse Blacker was another one for me...he's 31 now...he ended up playing one game in the NHL for Anaheim.

https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=106794
 
louisstamos said:
Frank E said:
It brings up a good topic...was there a guy or 2 in later rounds that you were really high on like 5-10 years ago?

I was pretty high on the Fedor Gordeev 5th round pick in 2017.  Thought he might turn out to be a super shut down d-man.

Wrong again, Frank.

I'm still high on Mac Hollowell, especially considering how much Marner and Matthews rave about him.  But it looks more an more like a longshot.  I also thought Antoine Bibeau was going to be an NHLer for sure, but considering how much he's bounced around in the AHL shows that it was a bit misplaced. lol

Edit: Broll and D'Amigo are two other names that come to mind that I thought had potential "steal" written all over them, but never came to fruition.
Hollowell always impresses me. Such a great skater and puck mover. I think his size will prevent him from making it...too bad because he looks to have the talent
 
That 2015 draft was close to a waste for TO, Marner good, ya, but the d-men drafted were either small or slow or both, the forwards were either slow, small or maladjusted.

It's looking more and more that the Leaf drafts from 2019 and before, during the Shanahan reign, are not proving very fruitful, Lily benched during the playoffs, Sandin, small and slow. Durzi looks like he might be TO's only true find in the 2nd round, 52nd overall, another small d-man. I guess Matthews came from those drafts but he was a no brainer and it's looking like TO only really specializes in no brainers. 
 
hobarth said:
That 2015 draft was close to a waste for TO, Marner good, ya, but the d-men drafted were either small or slow or both, the forwards were either slow, small or maladjusted.

It's looking more and more that the Leaf drafts from 2019 and before, during the Shanahan reign, are not proving very fruitful, Lily benched during the playoffs, Sandin, small and slow. Durzi looks like he might be TO's only true find in the 2nd round, 52nd overall, another small d-man. I guess Matthews came from those drafts but he was a no brainer and it's looking like TO only really specializes in no brainers.

Curious how many players a team should get from each draft to deem it a success? And where do they have to play in the line up for it to be a success?
 
hobarth said:
That 2015 draft was close to a waste for TO, Marner good, ya, but the d-men drafted were either small or slow or both, the forwards were either slow, small or maladjusted.

It's looking more and more that the Leaf drafts from 2019 and before, during the Shanahan reign, are not proving very fruitful, Lily benched during the playoffs, Sandin, small and slow. Durzi looks like he might be TO's only true find in the 2nd round, 52nd overall, another small d-man. I guess Matthews came from those drafts but he was a no brainer and it's looking like TO only really specializes in no brainers.

Go Dubas!
 
OldTimeHockey said:
hobarth said:
That 2015 draft was close to a waste for TO, Marner good, ya, but the d-men drafted were either small or slow or both, the forwards were either slow, small or maladjusted.

It's looking more and more that the Leaf drafts from 2019 and before, during the Shanahan reign, are not proving very fruitful, Lily benched during the playoffs, Sandin, small and slow. Durzi looks like he might be TO's only true find in the 2nd round, 52nd overall, another small d-man. I guess Matthews came from those drafts but he was a no brainer and it's looking like TO only really specializes in no brainers.

Curious how many players a team should get from each draft to deem it a success? And where do they have to play in the line up for it to be a success?

That's a fair question, TO had the chance to draft Konecny but chose to trade down instead with Dermott being the best of that trade. So then the question becomes is/was Dermott a good draft choice because he's played many games in the NHL or has he played many games because he was cheap and TO didn't have a whole lot of options beyond him.

I felt at that time, 2015, that TO was going about the draft totally wrong especially because of the quality of players available in one of the best drafts ever. OF course most everybody will say TO could've had Aho even after trading down but that is typical TO drafting, if it's not a nobrainer TO will screw it up. Even in a great draft drafting below #20 becomes difficult so why wouldn't TO trade up, Boeser was picked at #22, Chabot at #18, why did TO need so many crappy lower round draft choices, crappy because TO selected them. Every time TO trades down seems like TO admitting to being a horrible drafting team and figuring that volume drafting might mask their crapidity.

I'd prefer TO grab the bull by the horns and attempt to draft with some sense of certainty instead of trading down with the built in excuse of draft lottery later in drafts.

This year is the 8th draft of the Shanahan Era and so far the quality is basically only Matthews and Marner, outside of those two Dermott is the best player drafted, pretty awesome considering the number of choices TO has had over those 7 years.

 
herman said:
Nik said:
Shanahan was around for the Nylander draft, for what it's worth.

And had a direct hand in making sure the team picked him. Subsequently, Nylander is Shanahan?s son?s favourite player.

Since Nylander is the only quality player TO has drafted outside of the top 5 in 8 years, Shanahan should be conducting the draft for TO. Of course, many Leaf fans even consider Nylander is a failure.
 

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