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All quiet on the Leaf front. But why?

jonlleafs said:
Well, if only we had the concussion rule back then.  Roenick might have been knocked out of that one game by Tucker and wouldn't have scored the winning goal (if I remember it correctly).  But I thought they could have beaten them.  They went to 7 games and the 7th game was the very next night after the 6th game and with Belfour's wonky back, he just couldn't recover in time.  Stupid NHL scheduling again.  I think they could have had a better shot if they made the game 2 or 3 nights later.

You're getting your years confused. The Leafs were eliminated in 6 in 03-04 and the 6th game wasn't the next night. You're thinking of 02-03.
 
Nik? said:
jonlleafs said:
Well, if only we had the concussion rule back then.  Roenick might have been knocked out of that one game by Tucker and wouldn't have scored the winning goal (if I remember it correctly).  But I thought they could have beaten them.  They went to 7 games and the 7th game was the very next night after the 6th game and with Belfour's wonky back, he just couldn't recover in time.  Stupid NHL scheduling again.  I think they could have had a better shot if they made the game 2 or 3 nights later.

You're getting your years confused. The Leafs were eliminated in 6 in 03-04 and the 6th game wasn't the next night. You're thinking of 02-03.

Ok my bad then.
 
Nik? said:
jonlleafs said:
Well, if only we had the concussion rule back then.  Roenick might have been knocked out of that one game by Tucker and wouldn't have scored the winning goal (if I remember it correctly).  But I thought they could have beaten them.  They went to 7 games and the 7th game was the very next night after the 6th game and with Belfour's wonky back, he just couldn't recover in time.  Stupid NHL scheduling again.  I think they could have had a better shot if they made the game 2 or 3 nights later.

You're getting your years confused. The Leafs were eliminated in 6 in 03-04 and the 6th game wasn't the next night. You're thinking of 02-03.

Also, I'm struggling to remember any hit by Tucker on Roenick in the same game he scored the winning goal. He laid out Kapanen pretty good before Roenick scored the winner in game 6 in 03/04.
 
bustaheims said:
Nik? said:
jonlleafs said:
Well, if only we had the concussion rule back then.  Roenick might have been knocked out of that one game by Tucker and wouldn't have scored the winning goal (if I remember it correctly).  But I thought they could have beaten them.  They went to 7 games and the 7th game was the very next night after the 6th game and with Belfour's wonky back, he just couldn't recover in time.  Stupid NHL scheduling again.  I think they could have had a better shot if they made the game 2 or 3 nights later.

You're getting your years confused. The Leafs were eliminated in 6 in 03-04 and the 6th game wasn't the next night. You're thinking of 02-03.

Also, I'm struggling to remember any hit by Tucker on Roenick in the same game he scored the winning goal. He laid out Kapanen pretty good before Roenick scored the winner in game 6 in 03/04.

Was Belfour's wonky back ever an issue in the playoffs?
 
bustaheims said:
Nik? said:
jonlleafs said:
Well, if only we had the concussion rule back then.  Roenick might have been knocked out of that one game by Tucker and wouldn't have scored the winning goal (if I remember it correctly).  But I thought they could have beaten them.  They went to 7 games and the 7th game was the very next night after the 6th game and with Belfour's wonky back, he just couldn't recover in time.  Stupid NHL scheduling again.  I think they could have had a better shot if they made the game 2 or 3 nights later.

You're getting your years confused. The Leafs were eliminated in 6 in 03-04 and the 6th game wasn't the next night. You're thinking of 02-03.

Also, I'm struggling to remember any hit by Tucker on Roenick in the same game he scored the winning goal. He laid out Kapanen pretty good before Roenick scored the winner in game 6 in 03/04.

I remember Tucker drilling Roenick behind the goalie (can't remember which end) Roenick gets up dazed and almost falls.  I think he leaves for a bit and comes back to score.  Maybe it wasn't the winner.
 
jonlleafs said:
I remember Tucker drilling Roenick behind the goalie (can't remember which end) Roenick gets up dazed and almost falls.  I think he leaves for a bit and comes back to score.  Maybe it wasn't the winner.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure you're confusing that with his hit on Kapanen.
 
jonlleafs said:
bustaheims said:
Nik? said:
jonlleafs said:
Well, if only we had the concussion rule back then.  Roenick might have been knocked out of that one game by Tucker and wouldn't have scored the winning goal (if I remember it correctly).  But I thought they could have beaten them.  They went to 7 games and the 7th game was the very next night after the 6th game and with Belfour's wonky back, he just couldn't recover in time.  Stupid NHL scheduling again.  I think they could have had a better shot if they made the game 2 or 3 nights later.

You're getting your years confused. The Leafs were eliminated in 6 in 03-04 and the 6th game wasn't the next night. You're thinking of 02-03.

Also, I'm struggling to remember any hit by Tucker on Roenick in the same game he scored the winning goal. He laid out Kapanen pretty good before Roenick scored the winner in game 6 in 03/04.

I remember Tucker drilling Roenick behind the goalie (can't remember which end) Roenick gets up dazed and almost falls.  I think he leaves for a bit and comes back to score.  Maybe it wasn't the winner.

...what is the "concussion rule" and how would of it affected things differently?
 
Nik? said:
jonlleafs said:
I remember Tucker drilling Roenick behind the goalie (can't remember which end) Roenick gets up dazed and almost falls.  I think he leaves for a bit and comes back to score.  Maybe it wasn't the winner.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure you're confusing that with his hit on Kapanen.

I remember Roenick getting drilled behind the goalie.  I could be mistaking it for Tucker delivering the hit, but I don't know who else on the team would have done that at that time.  It definitely wasn't as bad as the Kapanen hit as far as Roenick having a hard time getting back to the bench.
 
Madferret said:
jonlleafs said:
bustaheims said:
Nik? said:
jonlleafs said:
Well, if only we had the concussion rule back then.  Roenick might have been knocked out of that one game by Tucker and wouldn't have scored the winning goal (if I remember it correctly).  But I thought they could have beaten them.  They went to 7 games and the 7th game was the very next night after the 6th game and with Belfour's wonky back, he just couldn't recover in time.  Stupid NHL scheduling again.  I think they could have had a better shot if they made the game 2 or 3 nights later.

You're getting your years confused. The Leafs were eliminated in 6 in 03-04 and the 6th game wasn't the next night. You're thinking of 02-03.

Also, I'm struggling to remember any hit by Tucker on Roenick in the same game he scored the winning goal. He laid out Kapanen pretty good before Roenick scored the winner in game 6 in 03/04.

I remember Tucker drilling Roenick behind the goalie (can't remember which end) Roenick gets up dazed and almost falls.  I think he leaves for a bit and comes back to score.  Maybe it wasn't the winner.

...what is the "concussion rule" and how would of it affected things differently?
Concussion PROTOCOL.  Better?

Sitting out minimum 15mins in the locker room?  Having the trainer/doctor assess you?  If you fail the tests they administer, you don't return to the game?  C'mon, you guys know this. 

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=556289
 
jonlleafs said:
I remember Roenick getting drilled behind the goalie.  I could be mistaking it for Tucker delivering the hit, but I don't know who else on the team would have done that at that time.  It definitely wasn't as bad as the Kapanen hit as far as Roenick having a hard time getting back to the bench.

Yeah, that just didn't happen. Roenick had just come onto the ice when he got the pass for the two on one. Observe:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9J9BSZYXd0
 
jonlleafs said:
Nik? said:
jonlleafs said:
I remember Tucker drilling Roenick behind the goalie (can't remember which end) Roenick gets up dazed and almost falls.  I think he leaves for a bit and comes back to score.  Maybe it wasn't the winner.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure you're confusing that with his hit on Kapanen.

I remember Roenick getting drilled behind the goalie.  I could be mistaking it for Tucker delivering the hit, but I don't know who else on the team would have done that at that time.  It definitely wasn't as bad as the Kapanen hit as far as Roenick having a hard time getting back to the bench.

I remember this hit too...Roenick was behind the net and dazed on his feet.  But it wasn't in the same game.  This was in Game #1 or #2 of the series (I've also been trying to find it online to no avail...but I specifically remember the hit)
 
louisstamos said:
jonlleafs said:
Nik? said:
jonlleafs said:
I remember Tucker drilling Roenick behind the goalie (can't remember which end) Roenick gets up dazed and almost falls.  I think he leaves for a bit and comes back to score.  Maybe it wasn't the winner.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure you're confusing that with his hit on Kapanen.

I remember Roenick getting drilled behind the goalie.  I could be mistaking it for Tucker delivering the hit, but I don't know who else on the team would have done that at that time.  It definitely wasn't as bad as the Kapanen hit as far as Roenick having a hard time getting back to the bench.

I remember this hit too...Roenick was behind the net and dazed on his feet.  But it wasn't in the same game.  This was in Game #1 or #2 of the series (I've also been trying to find it online to no avail...but I specifically remember the hit)

In 3 years hopefully it will be Brad Ross doing it and we won't have to try to remember things 8 + years ago.    :(
 
louisstamos said:
jonlleafs said:
Nik? said:
jonlleafs said:
I remember Tucker drilling Roenick behind the goalie (can't remember which end) Roenick gets up dazed and almost falls.  I think he leaves for a bit and comes back to score.  Maybe it wasn't the winner.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure you're confusing that with his hit on Kapanen.

I remember Roenick getting drilled behind the goalie.  I could be mistaking it for Tucker delivering the hit, but I don't know who else on the team would have done that at that time.  It definitely wasn't as bad as the Kapanen hit as far as Roenick having a hard time getting back to the bench.

I remember this hit too...Roenick was behind the net and dazed on his feet.  But it wasn't in the same game.  This was in Game #1 or #2 of the series (I've also been trying to find it online to no avail...but I specifically remember the hit)

I remember that hit like it was yesterday, it was Tucker on Roenick behind the net and the camera panned back to Roenick after a moment and he was just kinda sitting there in a daze. It was marvelous.I think that was game 3.

Tucker and Roenick went back and forth at each other the whole series, back when hockey mattered.

Remember when just a month ago Burke said there were lots of deals in the works and there was a "very remote possibility this is the same team we go into training camp with" ? I do, and im also observing absolutely nothing has changed. I presume very little if anything will change prior to training camp.

Burke fired before, or after xmas break ?
 
louisstamos said:
jonlleafs said:
Nik? said:
jonlleafs said:
I remember Tucker drilling Roenick behind the goalie (can't remember which end) Roenick gets up dazed and almost falls.  I think he leaves for a bit and comes back to score.  Maybe it wasn't the winner.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure you're confusing that with his hit on Kapanen.

I remember Roenick getting drilled behind the goalie.  I could be mistaking it for Tucker delivering the hit, but I don't know who else on the team would have done that at that time.  It definitely wasn't as bad as the Kapanen hit as far as Roenick having a hard time getting back to the bench.

I remember this hit too...Roenick was behind the net and dazed on his feet.  But it wasn't in the same game.  This was in Game #1 or #2 of the series (I've also been trying to find it online to no avail...but I specifically remember the hit)

Not a video, but just to show that the hit actually is how you guys are remembering it:

The teams played a spirited first period marked by Darcy Tucker's hit behind the net that left Roenick dazed.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/scores103/103106/20030416NHL--TORONTO---0.htm

Philly won 3-2 in 3 OT....Leafs were outshot 75-38.  God I miss that Quinn D.  ;D
 
Potvin29 said:
Not a video, but just to show that the hit actually is how you guys are remembering it:

The teams played a spirited first period marked by Darcy Tucker's hit behind the net that left Roenick dazed.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/scores103/103106/20030416NHL--TORONTO---0.htm

Philly won 3-2 in 3 OT....Leafs were outshot 75-38.  God I miss that Quinn D.  ;D

Well, mystery solved - but, unless Roenick failed the baseline tests (possible, though, based on his performance the rest of the series, I'd say unlikely - it didn't appear as though that his gave him a concussion), the concussion protocol wouldn't have taken him off the ice at the time when he scored in this one. So, you know, there goes that theory.
 
And here's video of the hit for anyone who wants it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHFH5fxBuhs&feature=related

Happens around 1:58 onwards.

Didn't even realize this initially started as a concussion-related discussion - but he doesn't appear to even hit the head at all.  If anything he knocks the wind out of Roenick but that's about it.
 
Potvin29 said:
And here's video of the hit for anyone who wants it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHFH5fxBuhs&feature=related

Happens around 1:58 onwards.

Didn't even realize this initially started as a concussion-related discussion - but he doesn't appear to even hit the head at all.  If anything he knocks the wind out of Roenick but that's about it.

Yeah. After watching the replay, it looks like Roenick tried to sell the hit there a little as well. He's up and yapping seconds after it happens.
 
I remember both Tucker hits well. The Tucker/Roenick mini-war during that series was fantastic. I remember the two of them in the post-series handshake and Roenick said he told Tucker "You can play on my team anytime." or something like that.

It's kinda funny the Flyers scored nearly immediately after both those hits though.
 

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