Strangelove
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jonlleafs said:Strangelove said:jonlleafs said:Strangelove said:princedpw said:KW Sluggo said:princedpw said:My "best case" scenario is really that we tank this year, sell off Connolly, Lombardi, Armstrong at the deadline, obtain another top 5 pick and reload with the 2014 free agents (hoping there are many). Maybe by 2016, we will have a decent team.
Been there, did that ...last year .... and the year before that etc etc
We started from a position in which JFJ had traded away a bunch of our first-round picks, we had no prospects, we lost all our top-end talent (Sundin, McCabe, Roberts, Newy, Mogilny) with no return, so yeah, it is going to take a bunch of years to recover from the massive system-wide talent deficit we found ourselves in. Wishing we were further ahead doesn't make it so.
How much longer is it going to be fashionable to blame JFJ for the current state of the Leafs? Burke hasn't exactly strockpiled legitimate talent himself, in case you haven't noticed. Either in the minors or on the big squad. Beyond a select few gems, the organization is more or less a mess. Arguably more so than when JFJ was canned.
Only if you tell me how much longer it will be fashionable to blame the current GM when we don't have a Stanley Cup after just 2-3yrs of service? It takes leg work and time to build a champion. Burke has done a lot. Not everyone is a homerun but we have a ton more usable assets then we ever did with JFJ.
Who said anything about a Stanley Cup?
And saying we have usable assets is great, but I see absolutely no evidence of it. A few, maybe. But the idea that we have "a ton" (or even "a ton more") is pretty laughable. Being a very bad team doesn't automatically means that the future is bright, and in the Leafs' case, right now, it really isn't.
This team wasn't a very bad team for about 1/2 to 2/3 of the season. At that point the goaltending fell apart and the player's confidence along with it. So, I don't agree with you that we have a very bad team. We have a team that needs to shore up goaltending. When we have goaltending (not even elite but above average), our defense will look like they learned how to play defense again.
Maybe. But I saw a team with absolutely terrible defensive coverage - bad positioning, terrible turnovers, bad decisions, weak on the puck, poor passes - making the goalies look bad.
Really, I think both defense and goaltending were well below average, and the forwards were wildly inconsistent. The Leafs' record appear to agree.
There are plenty more gaping holes on this team than just in goal.