Coronavirus

[L K]

Is it good economics to let 3 generations of health care workers, educators, and service industry folk burn out; saddle the province?s taxpayers with a mountain of long-term healthcare requirements? just to appease anti-maskers/vaxxers and corporate fat cats?

My personal experience from the last two years....the answer is apparently yes because that's precisely what we have done. 

 

[Zee]

Only feels like a matter of time before everyone gets this thing now.  30% positivity rate in the province today.  I know of a couple of my kid's friends that have tested positive now.  It's closing in.

 

[Highlander]

I got my Moderna booster yesterday too. Holy man did it knock me on my ass. Slept maybe 2 hours last night. Had fever, chills, body aches, headache, massive fatigue (though that could be just from the lack of sleep). Loaded up on advil, forced myself to shower, and I'm feeling better already. Had my shot at 11:30 am yesterday, I'm feeling better now at 2:30 pm.

I had no reaction at all from the 1st two shots, other than a sore shoulder. I got a 1/2 dose since I'm younger than 70.

Strange, after I wrote that report, I started to get a fever and felt like shit for several hours.  After a few cocktails and an Aleve it went away.  We were worried as my son is a Chef and there has been Covid in his kitchen. Yes  he lives at home.

 

[princedpw]

Only feels like a matter of time before everyone gets this thing now.  30% positivity rate in the province today.  I know of a couple of my kid's friends that have tested positive now.  It's closing in.

I live in the US. Day before I came up to visit family in Toronto, niece tested positive and I basically didn?t get to hang out with 1/2 the family. Go back down to the US. 2 days later, I test positive. Mostly a terrible headache.  (I?m 3 x pfizer.)

 

[herman]

https://twitter.com/ahmadeofficial/status/1477037646140612618
Can?t close schools due to too many Covid cases if no one is allowed to confirm and count them (because it?s too much work to keep your kids safe).

 

[Heroic Shrimp]

https://twitter.com/dalev73/status/1477144842899755009

https://twitter.com/mrs_l_addison/status/1477145310740856837

 

[Kin]

Does anyone even feel as though there's a strategy right now from the Province on what the end goal is? Because it feels like all we have is 1) try to get as many people their boosters as possible and 2) hope for the best in terms of hospitalizations and with that 1) isnt really all that different from the strategy re: vaccinations as it's always been, outside of they largely shut down the vaccine infrastructure we had once they decided they weren't going to push too hard on the anti-vaxxers.

Honestly, it feels like the Province has just given up and is hoping for herd immunity in a situation where everything I see from the medical community says that even without a huge surge in ICU admissions, the profession in general is about an inch away from being completely burnt out.

 

[groundskeeper willie]

Does anyone even feel as though there's a strategy right now from the Province on what the end goal is? Because it feels like all we have is 1) try to get as many people their boosters as possible and 2) hope for the best in terms of hospitalizations and with that 1) isnt really all that different from the strategy re: vaccinations as it's always been, outside of they largely shut down the vaccine infrastructure we had once they decided they weren't going to push too hard on the anti-vaxxers.

Honestly, it feels like the Province has just given up and is hoping for herd immunity in a situation where everything I see from the medical community says that even without a huge surge in ICU admissions, the profession in general is about an inch away from being completely burnt out.

They've given up. There's really no other way to look at it.

Can't close schools because parents can't work then. Can't lockdown because they don't have the desire to enforce it. Can't restrict the non-vaccinated because they complain loudly and can't have that in an election year.

They're hoping that by not testing anybody other than absolutely necessary that nobody will realize how bad things really are, and are crossing their fingers that hospitals don't get overrun.

 

[Bender]

Does anyone even feel as though there's a strategy right now from the Province on what the end goal is? Because it feels like all we have is 1) try to get as many people their boosters as possible and 2) hope for the best in terms of hospitalizations and with that 1) isnt really all that different from the strategy re: vaccinations as it's always been, outside of they largely shut down the vaccine infrastructure we had once they decided they weren't going to push too hard on the anti-vaxxers.

Honestly, it feels like the Province has just given up and is hoping for herd immunity in a situation where everything I see from the medical community says that even without a huge surge in ICU admissions, the profession in general is about an inch away from being completely burnt out.

Any person working in health care, especially front line Paramedics & ER nurses and docs right now, is a much better person than I, that I can say. Take them even more for granted, burn them all out and probably cut funding in the future. Some gratitude.

 

[Bender]

Does anyone even feel as though there's a strategy right now from the Province on what the end goal is? Because it feels like all we have is 1) try to get as many people their boosters as possible and 2) hope for the best in terms of hospitalizations and with that 1) isnt really all that different from the strategy re: vaccinations as it's always been, outside of they largely shut down the vaccine infrastructure we had once they decided they weren't going to push too hard on the anti-vaxxers.

Honestly, it feels like the Province has just given up and is hoping for herd immunity in a situation where everything I see from the medical community says that even without a huge surge in ICU admissions, the profession in general is about an inch away from being completely burnt out.

They've given up. There's really no other way to look at it.

Can't close schools because parents can't work then. Can't lockdown because they don't have the desire to enforce it. Can't restrict the non-vaccinated because they complain loudly and can't have that in an election year.

They're hoping that by not testing anybody other than absolutely necessary that nobody will realize how bad things really are, and are crossing their fingers that hospitals don't get overrun.

This is literally the Trump playbook.

"If we stop testing right now, we'd have very few cases, actually,"

 

[herman]

https://twitter.com/thelocalhealth/status/1477399491774980098
https://twitter.com/hotsahs/status/1477448561654734852
The sooner we can turn the government over to the Wikipedia/YouTube/GitHub generation, the better. They?ve been first to the pass throughout the pandemic in getting info and resources to the public (vaccine hunters, case tracking maps, local grocery lineups).

Taiwan big-data?d their response, quarantine support, and contact tracing process from day 1 and they are effectively Covid-free.

 

[Peter D.]

Does anyone even feel as though there's a strategy right now from the Province on what the end goal is? Because it feels like all we have is 1) try to get as many people their boosters as possible and 2) hope for the best in terms of hospitalizations and with that 1) isnt really all that different from the strategy re: vaccinations as it's always been, outside of they largely shut down the vaccine infrastructure we had once they decided they weren't going to push too hard on the anti-vaxxers.

Honestly, it feels like the Province has just given up and is hoping for herd immunity in a situation where everything I see from the medical community says that even without a huge surge in ICU admissions, the profession in general is about an inch away from being completely burnt out.

What should be done with/to anti-vaxxers?

 

[Kin]

Could have stronger vaccine mandates combined with better enforcement.

 

[princedpw]

Does anyone even feel as though there's a strategy right now from the Province on what the end goal is? Because it feels like all we have is 1) try to get as many people their boosters as possible and 2) hope for the best in terms of hospitalizations and with that 1) isnt really all that different from the strategy re: vaccinations as it's always been, outside of they largely shut down the vaccine infrastructure we had once they decided they weren't going to push too hard on the anti-vaxxers.

Honestly, it feels like the Province has just given up and is hoping for herd immunity in a situation where everything I see from the medical community says that even without a huge surge in ICU admissions, the profession in general is about an inch away from being completely burnt out.

What should be done with/to anti-vaxxers?

They should be taxed to compensate the country for their excess healthcare costs.

 

[LittleHockeyFan]

I'll go to hell for this, but I think hospitals/clinics etc should be able to deny anti vaxxers covid related health care.

I'm so sick and tired of their self righteous bs. I don't wanna wear a mask either. I don't like social distancing. I don't like being at home so much. But I f***ing do it! For myself, my family, my neighbours and the general public. I wish they'd all get over themselves, but of course, that's asking too much.

 

[Guru Tugginmypuddah]

Does anyone even feel as though there's a strategy right now from the Province on what the end goal is? Because it feels like all we have is 1) try to get as many people their boosters as possible and 2) hope for the best in terms of hospitalizations and with that 1) isnt really all that different from the strategy re: vaccinations as it's always been, outside of they largely shut down the vaccine infrastructure we had once they decided they weren't going to push too hard on the anti-vaxxers.

Honestly, it feels like the Province has just given up and is hoping for herd immunity in a situation where everything I see from the medical community says that even without a huge surge in ICU admissions, the profession in general is about an inch away from being completely burnt out.

What should be done with/to anti-vaxxers?

Gulag. 

 

[bustaheims]

What should be done with/to anti-vaxxers?

They should be fired.

Out of a cannon.

Into the sun.

 

[groundskeeper willie]

I'll go to hell for this, but I think hospitals/clinics etc should be able to deny anti vaxxers covid related health care.

I'm so sick and tired of their self righteous bs. I don't wanna wear a mask either. I don't like social distancing. I don't like being at home so much. But I f***ing do it! For myself, my family, my neighbours and the general public. I wish they'd all get over themselves, but of course, that's asking too much.

Our culture seemed to go pretty quickly from everybody looking out for the greater good to lots of people only looking out for number one.

 

[herman]

https://twitter.com/pervocracy/status/1477399588789174274
This is a worthwhile read. The long and short of it is pushing the decision to HCWs and enforcement to restaurant/store staff is incredibly unfair. Can?t quite make vaccinations mandatory in a blanket way in Canada, but we can absolutely wall off non-essential entertainment/recreation space from those that are playing for team virus. And the government case and hospitalization (and death) figures should be yelling extremely loudly about the disparity of counts between vaccinated and unvaccinated.

 

[Joe S.]

I'll go to hell for this, but I think hospitals/clinics etc should be able to deny anti vaxxers covid related health care.

I'm so sick and tired of their self righteous bs. I don't wanna wear a mask either. I don't like social distancing. I don't like being at home so much. But I f***ing do it! For myself, my family, my neighbours and the general public. I wish they'd all get over themselves, but of course, that's asking too much.

I get the frustration but once you go down this path you?ve now opened up denying health care for all kinds of reasons. So if you smoke and you get lung cancer you should be denied treatment? And you see where it can go from there. It?s a dangerous path.