Coronavirus

[CarltonTheBear]

https://twitter.com/CBCQueensPark/status/1379817295665623044

vs.

https://twitter.com/JenniferSey/status/1379610732053008386

I understood people going crazy with all the hygiene theatre stuff during the first few months of this pandemic because everything was new, but we should know better now. Not saying everyone should be going out there and licking door knobs but even if you do you're probably not getting Covid that way.

 

[Bender]

(as a sidebar can any teachers tell me why teaching outside is not feasible?)

Because we live in Canada with high amounts of precipitation and the fact for most of the 10 months school is in session, winter can return at any time

Even allowing for the impossibility of perfect weather year-round, imagine literally many hundreds of students and teachers spaced around a field with no chalkboards, whiteboards, or PowerPoint screens to teach with. With no sound reflection off of walls, you wouldn't be able hear and understand anybody talking more than 8 feet away unless they're yelling. So you'd have hundreds of people scattered around a field with literally no workable means of audio or visual communication between groups of people.

But, yeah, the weather: snow, rain, wind, cold, heat, sunburn, etc.

Right but it's an imperfect solution to a bad situation. I think my point is more ok, you don't want kids at home on zoom, you don't want kids learning outside (in southern Ontario where it's quite nice right now) and teaching in person is not really tenable right now. Pick your poison.

 

[Bender]

https://twitter.com/CBCQueensPark/status/1379817295665623044

vs.

https://twitter.com/JenniferSey/status/1379610732053008386

I understood people going crazy with all the hygiene theatre stuff during the first few months of this pandemic because everything was new, but we should know better now. Not saying everyone should be going out there and licking door knobs but even if you do you're probably not getting Covid that way.

I can't believe our govts have failed to recognize the importance of airborne/aerosol transmission this late in the game. Superspreading events can't be explained by people touching a contaminated surface and touching their face. It just seems so low event probability vs breathing in exhaled air with an effective viral load from someone who has covid. It's the only thing that explains spaced church choirs or people in different rooms in a cruise ship all getting sick without going out.

 

[Bender]

Looks like vaccinations will be coming soon to hotspots for everyone above 18. Province hoping to have 40%+ done in a month. We at least have some metrics now. Hoping I can get mine soon.

 

[Deebo]

Looks like vaccinations will be coming soon to hotspots for everyone above 18. Province hoping to have 40%+ done in a month. We at least have some metrics now. Hoping I can get mine soon.

A hot spot is under 300m to west of my lobby

 

[Bullfrog]

Looks like I'm going to have to hold off on them jeans.

It's time to learn to sew, my friend.

On the other hand, I don't really need jeans -- or any pants for that matter -- during a stay-at-home order, no?

 

[Bender]

Looks like I'm going to have to hold off on them jeans.

It's time to learn to sew, my friend.

On the other hand, I don't really need jeans -- or any pants for that matter -- during a stay-at-home order, no?

.

 

[Highlander]

Getting my jab today, will be AZ I think.  I was working in my yard yesterday and my neighbour told me to reapply on the Safeway/Sobeys website, as she said it had some previous glitches.  I did and within minutes had  appointments for my wife and me.
I let you know what happens after the jab.

 

[L K]

Really not loving the trends going on in the ICU world.  I'm not working in a high COVID area but our critical illness presentations are up significantly.  Our local ICU took patients from Mississauga at the end of the week to try and alleviate hospital burden but a busy weekend turned into our own ICU over capacity now.

 

[WAYNEINIONA]

Apparently we are getting 7 patients from Toronto here in St Thomas today.

 

[Guilt Trip]

Apparently we are getting 7 patients from Toronto here in St Thomas today.

That's what happens when the ICUs are over run unfortunately but this is all smoke and mirrors right? Covid isn't real is it? Sad state right now.

 

[Highlander]

My wife and I just got the shot, a bit harsher than the flu shot last fall and I could feel the chilled vaccine as it entered my body.  My wife had a bit of a rougher jab and felt the same thing with the liquid.  Vaccinator was great, made us feel at ease and spoke about the 20 million in the UK who has received the AZ vaccine without problem.  No real pain in arm at all and feel fine. If this changes will let you know.
Now time for a dwink and a Leaf and Blue Jays win combo platter.

 

[Bender]

My wife and I just got the shot, a bit harsher than the flu shot last fall and I could feel the chilled vaccine as it entered my body.  My wife had a bit of a rougher jab and felt the same thing with the liquid.  Vaccinator was great, made us feel at ease and spoke about the 20 million in the UK who has received the AZ vaccine without problem.  No real pain in arm at all and feel fine. If this changes will let you know.
Now time for a dwink and a Leaf and Blue Jays win combo platter.

Good to hear!

 

[Kin]

The Atlantic has an article about the "troubled" Canadian vaccine rollout:

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2021/04/canada-vaccine-rollout-problems/618516/

Basically it boils down to three main points. First that Canada's price controls and patent laws on pharmaceuticals have made companies not want to set up here which explains, in part, the lack of domestic manufacturing, second that nobody listened to the recommendations made by the inquiry into SARS and third that the Provincial/Federal division of powers made a more directed approach possible.

Now, all of that may or may not be true but what's weird is seeing people online using it as a way to try and score points of the Trudeau government. The third one has nothing to do with him, the second is a multi-party failure and the first, despite being questionably true, seems like something most Canadians don't want to change.

Although anyone who wants to run in the next election on "We'll make pharmaceuticals more expensive" is welcome to give it a go.

 

[louisstamos]

https://twitter.com/UofT_dlsph/status/1383157118065332224

 

[herman]

Anyone else nursing thoughts of sedition?

How about now?

 

[Bender]

The Atlantic has an article about the "troubled" Canadian vaccine rollout:

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2021/04/canada-vaccine-rollout-problems/618516/

Basically it boils down to three main points. First that Canada's price controls and patent laws on pharmaceuticals have made companies not want to set up here which explains, in part, the lack of domestic manufacturing, second that nobody listened to the recommendations made by the inquiry into SARS and third that the Provincial/Federal division of powers made a more directed approach possible.

Now, all of that may or may not be true but what's weird is seeing people online using it as a way to try and score points of the Trudeau government. The third one has nothing to do with him, the second is a multi-party failure and the first, despite being questionably true, seems like something most Canadians don't want to change.

Although anyone who wants to run in the next election on "We'll make pharmaceuticals more expensive" is welcome to give it a go.

The funny part is we are being compared to the US which doesn't make sense and the country that developed the AZ vaccine. Both are unfair comparisons. In the grand scheme of things vaccine procurement isn't the problem, it's lack of adherence to fundamental public health protocols like, you know, not reopening when Steini Brown said it would be a disaster mid-Feb and having well in advance planning for vaccine distribution and logistics once the rubber met the road. We could have been stronger in certain areas federally but these are mostly provincial failings at this point.

 

[Kin]

https://twitter.com/YoniFreedhoff/status/1383146302440144904

Just a reminder that everyone saw this coming. And Ford and his party didn't care.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

https://twitter.com/YoniFreedhoff/status/1383146302440144904

Just a reminder that everyone saw this coming. And Ford and his party didn't care.

The longer this goes on, the more I'm embarrassed to have ever called myself a conservative voter.

 

[herman]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/federal-government-ontario-covid-19-third-wave-1.5992496

"First, we are mobilizing federal health-care workers from across government departments to deploy to the front lines in Ontario, in specifically the [Greater Toronto Area] where the situation is the most critical," Trudeau said in a video posted to Twitter on Sunday afternoon.

"Second, Canadians across the country aren't just watching the situation closely, they're springing into action to help. There are provinces that have managed their health-care capacity for their own local situations and have the ability to lend a hand to others."

The first draft of this announcement must've been wild.