Coronavirus
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L K
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One thing to keep in mind for those that say "but my county isn't bad"....yeah but the beds in the ICU are finite. When I have a critically ill patient in the ER I call a Provincial service called "Criticall". They find me the closest available ICU bed. If there is 1 ICU bed in the province and it's 6 hours away from where I am located, that's the ICU I talk to for that patient.
So if there are no ICU beds in Toronto it means GTA patients are being transferred elsewhere. If there are no ICU beds in London they go to Stratford and Chatham and then Windsor and Hamilton.
A lack of ICU beds is a province wide issue.
So if there are no ICU beds in Toronto it means GTA patients are being transferred elsewhere. If there are no ICU beds in London they go to Stratford and Chatham and then Windsor and Hamilton.
A lack of ICU beds is a province wide issue.
louisstamos
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https://twitter.com/l_stone/status/1377687927266947080
I feel like the solution to this is just open the vaccine rollout to everyone - allow people to register for the vaccine, and then assign them a date/time to do it based on their priority category/age.
As someone who is under 40 and relatively healthy, even if I'm told my first shot won't be until July 23rd at 3:31 a.m., at least I have my date when I can get it and will be there. And that way, you're going through people who want the shot faster and surpassing people who don't. I realize this is dependent on the supply targets being met, but you can always air on the conservative side if need be.
I feel like the solution to this is just open the vaccine rollout to everyone - allow people to register for the vaccine, and then assign them a date/time to do it based on their priority category/age.
As someone who is under 40 and relatively healthy, even if I'm told my first shot won't be until July 23rd at 3:31 a.m., at least I have my date when I can get it and will be there. And that way, you're going through people who want the shot faster and surpassing people who don't. I realize this is dependent on the supply targets being met, but you can always air on the conservative side if need be.
I don't understand this door knocking shit. Some of this hokey small town talk needs to stop. They need a massive old fashioned ad campaign. Blitz everywhere and target eligible persons and really persuade people. This isn't rocket science, but apparently for this government everything is.louisstamos said:
Got my dad booked for a Pfizer shot at the International Centre on Sunday. Remember to get your folks (or yourselves) signed up at the mass immunization website if they or you're eligible.
https://www.toronto.ca/home/covid-19/covid-19-protect-yourself-others/covid-19-vaccines/covid-19-how-to-get-vaccinated/covid-19-future-city-operated-immunization-clinics/#location=&lat=&lng=
https://www.toronto.ca/home/covid-19/covid-19-protect-yourself-others/covid-19-vaccines/covid-19-how-to-get-vaccinated/covid-19-future-city-operated-immunization-clinics/#location=&lat=&lng=
Kin
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Yeah, after fits and starts and postponements my mother will be getting hers through UHN so that's good. I still think the big mistake they made was in opening things up in 10 year chunks instead of more gradually. I woke up early to book the appointment the first day 60-69 year olds could do it and it took me an hour on hold with the province. I imagine some people in a similar boat would have gotten frustrated and put it off.
https://twitter.com/ColinDMello/status/1379486246234361861
Ford's entire schtick during this pandemic has basically been "how dare you do those things that I said you can do".
Ford's entire schtick during this pandemic has basically been "how dare you do those things that I said you can do".
dappleganger
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Bullfrog said:
I think you are correct.
Nik said:
The most frustrating thing in all this is people who understand logic realized that nipping this in the bud as hard and as fast as possible meant we could have some semblance of normalcy and with normalcy comes a better economy. It really isn't rocket science.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/26/opinion/coronavirus-economy-reopen.html
The timestamp on this is April 2020! We had our chances and we chose not to deal with things until we let them spiral out of control and this is the third time now. Third! And once again we close schools (as a sidebar can any teachers tell me why teaching outside is not feasible?) and we've let Yorkdale stay open for people who probably want to hit two or three shops and spend the rest of the day window shopping.
Regarding economy & covid, we now have proof that dealing with the virus vs. endless mockdown is better for the economy: https://www.institutmolinari.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/17/2021/03/etude-zero-covid2021_en.pdf
And we also have a test case of what the virus can do with little to no public health measures: https://www.ft.com/content/55713895-2423-4259-a222-f778f9587490
I mean, honestly, it's a no brainer. Once you get things under control you can send people for quarantine with a lot more precision and snuff out problems. I would much rather be in Melbourne right now than here.
Anyway, I'm done my rant. I just can't believe after a year of this our overall approach/philosophy has not been optimized in any way.
OldTimeHockey
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Bender said:
Because we live in Canada with high amounts of precipitation and the fact for most of the 10 months school is in session, winter can return at any time
Heroic Shrimp
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Even allowing for the impossibility of perfect weather year-round, imagine literally many hundreds of students and teachers spaced around a field with no chalkboards, whiteboards, or PowerPoint screens to teach with. With no sound reflection off of walls, you wouldn't be able hear and understand anybody talking more than 8 feet away unless they're yelling. So you'd have hundreds of people scattered around a field with literally no workable means of audio or visual communication between groups of people.OldTimeHockey said:
But, yeah, the weather: snow, rain, wind, cold, heat, sunburn, etc.
L K
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Social distancing measures wouldn't allow for feasible outdoor teaching. We don't have amphitheatres to teach classes in. So much of teaching today relies on technology to demonstrate examples and we don't have the wireless infrastructure to support purely outdoor learning.
On top of that we don't have ways to then deal with weather. It's spring. It's going to rain 80% of the next two months. Where I live we frequently have 40-60km/hr winds. Kind of hard to keep pen and paper still to take notes in that kind of setting.
But yes, your argument about the malls is 100% accurate. The COVID rainbow program is stupid because it leaves large gaps and is inconsistent so our lockdowns have been mismanaged half-measures.
Highlander
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The runners on CNN are all done out of St.Croix.herman said: