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freer said:And if Kessel gets knocked out, then what? Then we are F__ked. Just saying
CarltonTheBear said:To steer the discussion back toward Bolland, I was just looking through the teams stats and noticed that he had a pretty high PIM total given how many games he played. He had 18 PIM in in 15 games. He took penalties in 7 of the 15 games he played in. He's 6th among forwards on the team in minor penalties taken.
Now, that's a very high pace so I'm sure he wouldn't have stayed on it had he continued playing. But it will be something to keep an eye on when he comes back. Especially since he might be prone to taking some more obstruction-based penalties if his skating is taken down a notch because of his injury.
OldTimeHockey said:Does he have a history of taking a large amount of penalties?
CarltonTheBear said:OldTimeHockey said:Does he have a history of taking a large amount of penalties?
The last few seasons he's taken about 0.29 minor penalties a game. This season he's at 0.60. So like I said he wasn't going to maintain that pace, but even at .29 he's still up there for the team lead with Kadri. But unlike Kadri he's never been known to draw very many penalties.
bustaheims said:freer said:And if Kessel gets knocked out, then what? Then we are F__ked. Just saying
Having Orr, McLaren or any other enforcer in the lineup isn't going to prevent that from happening, because, they're not deterrents.
I mean, really, outside of a handful of examples over the years, NHL players are decent enough human beings that they don't come into a game with the predetermined intention of injuring another player, and, those rare few that do aren't going to be deterred because they'll have to fight someone afterwards. Most questionable or dirty plays are spur of the moment things. Players see an another player in a vulnerable position or open to a big hit or whatever, and, being a person who will take advantage of those opportunities, they do. They really only have a fraction of a second decide whether or not they're going to make a play there and to make that play. In that time, they're not thinking "does the other team have an enforcer dressed tonight?" or "is this worth getting into a fight over?" because they don't have time to. They're either going to make the questionable/dirty play, because that's who they are, or they're not. Having an enforcer in the lineup does nothing to stop that, because enforcers are protective measures, they're retributive measures - and questionable ones, at that.
bustaheims said:I mean, really, outside of a handful of examples over the years, NHL players are decent enough human beings that they don't come into a game with the predetermined intention of injuring another player,
Joe S. said:I saw that - and this immediately came to mind:
bustaheims said:Joe S. said:I saw that - and this immediately came to mind:
He'd qualify as one of the "handful of examples" I mentioned, but, even he didn't seem to ever come into a game with the intent of injuring anyone.
Joe S. said:I didn't mean it in any way to take away from your intent - it was more of a funny memory, that's all.
Highlander said:when do the USA and CAnada teams play there first game..I am out in the boonies
Zee said:Dreger saying Bolland is looking for $5M+ *sigh*
Zee said:Dreger saying Bolland is looking for $5M+ *sigh*
Zee said:Dreger saying Bolland is looking for $5M+ *sigh*