Dave Bolland

[Rebel_1812]

I mean, if we were talking about a 3rd line center who was Mike Peca or Bob Gainey in their prime in terms of defensive abilities they would be a "game-changer" too but we wouldn't throw 7 or 8 million a year at them.

Bobby Holik got 9.5 million so it does happen.

 

[bustaheims]

Bobby Holik got 9.5 million so it does happen.

Well before the salary cap and from a team that intended to use him as more than a 3rd line centre. He also had a bunch of 20+ goal seasons to his credit, including 5 of the 6 seasons before that contract was signed.

 

[Kin]

Bobby Holik got 9.5 million so it does happen.

Ah yes. That thing that happened 10 years and two CBA's ago. Spectacularly relevant.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

So Bolland is out of town to see a specialist regarding his ankle...

So this team will never have an identity?

 

[Jalili]

So Bolland is out of town to see a specialist regarding his ankle...

I really don't expect to see him in a Leaf uniform as an active player again.

I hope you're wrong about that, but it's interesting you say that as I had doubts back when the injury happened that he'd play another game as a Leaf. At the time people were mostly optimistic though.

I'm still holding out for a return in the near future though.

 

[Leaflifer]

I don't think there's any question about whether or not the cap is affecting players contracts and whether or not players are being moved to fit teams under it.

But that's why a discussion of a contract of this magnitude needs to be done from that perspective. Is Bolland worth it if it means the team has to cut Reimer loose and go cheap on backup goaltending? Is he worth it if it means that the team, more or less, has to move forward with the defense as-is? Or take a position on Kadri's extension that could be detrimental to the team?

If the Leafs take the sort of approach you're talking about, where they make a below market offer and just hope that he takes it, think about what they're risking by not having decisions in place by the deadline or the draft, which are traditionally the best times to move pieces for good returns. Think about the uncertainty it creates with negotiating with their other RFAs.

I think Dave Bolland is a good player but I really think we should look at how Chicago looked at him and what he brought and what he would cost and decided that they wanted to turn him into other, cheaper assets. It wasn't that they didn't like him or didn't think he could help them win, he just scored a cup winning goal for them, it's that they know how to strike while the iron's hot. I don't know about you but if there's a team out there I'd like the Leafs to resemble, it's the Blackhawks.

Sorry to derail, but that exactley how I felt about McCabe. He was a good player, but there was a time when the iron was super hot with him, his contract was up, and the Leafs needed prospects.

 

[losveratos]

I don't think there's any question about whether or not the cap is affecting players contracts and whether or not players are being moved to fit teams under it.

But that's why a discussion of a contract of this magnitude needs to be done from that perspective. Is Bolland worth it if it means the team has to cut Reimer loose and go cheap on backup goaltending? Is he worth it if it means that the team, more or less, has to move forward with the defense as-is? Or take a position on Kadri's extension that could be detrimental to the team?

If the Leafs take the sort of approach you're talking about, where they make a below market offer and just hope that he takes it, think about what they're risking by not having decisions in place by the deadline or the draft, which are traditionally the best times to move pieces for good returns. Think about the uncertainty it creates with negotiating with their other RFAs.

I think Dave Bolland is a good player but I really think we should look at how Chicago looked at him and what he brought and what he would cost and decided that they wanted to turn him into other, cheaper assets. It wasn't that they didn't like him or didn't think he could help them win, he just scored a cup winning goal for them, it's that they know how to strike while the iron's hot. I don't know about you but if there's a team out there I'd like the Leafs to resemble, it's the Blackhawks.

Sorry to derail, but that exactley how I felt about McCabe. He was a good player, but there was a time when the iron was super hot with him, his contract was up, and the Leafs needed prospects.

Double derail catastrophe. Tucker too. Should have traded him before that last big contract.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Shocking: Bolland won't play tonight.

 

[Highlander]

I like Bolland a lot but this injury thing has me very worried, I think the Leafs should err on side of caution and gets some draft picks  for him if they can.

 

[bustaheims]

I like Bolland a lot but this injury thing has me very worried, I think the Leafs should err on side of caution and gets some draft picks  for him if they can.

Not sure anyone gives up anything for a player who may not play before his contract runs out.

 

[Highlander]

true dat

 

[Redleaf]

I like Bolland a lot but this injury thing has me very worried, I think the Leafs should err on side of caution and gets some draft picks  for him if they can.

Not sure anyone gives up anything for a player who may not play before his contract runs out.

Agreed. There is no sense trading him today. I still believe he is close to returning, perhaps as early as next week.

 

[Guru Tugginmypuddah]

I like Bolland a lot but this injury thing has me very worried, I think the Leafs should err on side of caution and gets some draft picks  for him if they can.

Not sure anyone gives up anything for a player who may not play before his contract runs out.

Agreed. There is no sense trading him today. I still believe he is close to returning, perhaps as early as next week.

He just went to another specialist.  Not sure if he was that close to returning he would go see another doctor.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

I like Bolland a lot but this injury thing has me very worried, I think the Leafs should err on side of caution and gets some draft picks  for him if they can.

Not sure anyone gives up anything for a player who may not play before his contract runs out.

Agreed. There is no sense trading him today. I still believe he is close to returning, perhaps as early as next week.

He just went to another specialist.  Not sure if he was that close to returning he would go see another doctor.

Pretty sure Stamkos announced he's cleared to go after visiting a doctor today..

 

[bustaheims]

Pretty sure Stamkos announced he's cleared to go after visiting a doctor today..

Yeah, but, Stamkos didn't go to see a specialist because of complications with his injury. He went for a scheduled checkup with the same doctor he's been seeing since suffering his injury.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Pretty sure Stamkos announced he's cleared to go after visiting a doctor today..

Yeah, but, Stamkos didn't go to see a specialist because of complications with his injury. He went for a scheduled checkup with the same doctor he's been seeing since suffering his injury.

Yeah he just went to get the all-clear to play tomorrow.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

Pretty sure Stamkos announced he's cleared to go after visiting a doctor today..

Yeah, but, Stamkos didn't go to see a specialist because of complications with his injury. He went for a scheduled checkup with the same doctor he's been seeing since suffering his injury.

I know. I was simply commenting on Guru's post and it was done in jest really.

 

[Zee]

Doesn't sound like good news on Bolland, he might not play again this season the way it's looking.  Such a waste, I blame Vancouver.

 

[Champ Kind]

Doesn't sound like good news on Bolland, he might not play again this season the way it's looking.  Such a waste, I blame Vancouver.

I believe it's always prudent to, when in doubt, blame Vancouver (or Gillis at least).

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I won't post the link because I don't want to direct traffic to this god awful article, but Dave Feschuk wrote this about Bolland's situation today:

And yet Carlyle, when he?s been asked about Bolland?s availability of late, has responded as though he?s neither fully aware nor half concerned about any of the above.

?It?s up to him now to tell us when he?s ready,? Carlyle said recently.

The coach?s response implies that Bolland should be good to go ? and that if he doesn?t get back on the ice promptly he?s letting down his teammates and the people who pay him, not to mention his poor old coach.

*face palm*