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Dave Bolland

CarltonTheBear said:
I won't post the link because I don't want to direct traffic to this god awful article, but Dave Feschuk wrote this about Bolland's situation today:

And yet Carlyle, when he?s been asked about Bolland?s availability of late, has responded as though he?s neither fully aware nor half concerned about any of the above.

?It?s up to him now to tell us when he?s ready,? Carlyle said recently.

The coach?s response implies that Bolland should be good to go ? and that if he doesn?t get back on the ice promptly he?s letting down his teammates and the people who pay him, not to mention his poor old coach.

*face palm*

How does Feschuk continue to be employed?
 
While the article is still garbage for that one portion alone, he did speak to Bolland's agent and got some details on his rehab (Bolland's mom must have been busy):

But here are the problematic details, according to Bolland?s agent, Anton Thun: There are things Bolland is accustomed to doing on the ice ? twisting, turning, adjusting, battling ? that he does not currently possess the ability to do. The tendon and the muscle are healing nicely. But there?s the matter of strength and mobility and stability in his ankle ? none of which is up to the standards of an NHL skater.

When Bolland saw a U.S. specialist this week, Thun said the doctor marvelled at how far Bolland has come in a little more than four months. But the doctor cautioned that there?s an unknown road ahead.

?The whole ankle structure has a ways to go. It?s all interconnected,? Thun said, ?It?s not a day-to-day type of thing. He?s just not ready. There?s two things that need to take place: one is the healing process, and then he needs to get his strength up again.?
 
Potvin29 said:
Based on that it doesn't sound like he'll be in the lineup anytime soon.

Yeah. He's not playing for the Leafs again this season. At least, that's what I take away from this.
 
bustaheims said:
Potvin29 said:
Based on that it doesn't sound like he'll be in the lineup anytime soon.

Yeah. He's not playing for the Leafs again this season. At least, that's what I take away from this.

So Nonis re-signs him long term without knowing of the consequences of his injury....is what you're saying.... :-\
 
bustaheims said:
Potvin29 said:
Based on that it doesn't sound like he'll be in the lineup anytime soon.

Yeah. He's not playing for the Leafs again this season. At least, that's what I take away from this.

And if he does, it's in the playoffs that he makes his debut.  I'm not sure how I feel about that given the complete uncertainty of his injury recovery.

Regardless, it is pretty clear to me that the Leafs are not allowed to have nice things.  Between Yuskevich's blood clots, Berard's eye, Gilmour's 30 second return, and Bolland's injury, we lose nice pieces that make the team better or at least have a great deal of sentimental value. 

On the flip side, Blake's, Clarkson's and Raycroft's get to play happily...sigh.
 
lamajama said:
So Nonis re-signs him long term without knowing of the consequences of his injury....is what you're saying.... :-\

There's some uncertainty, but I'm sure he's consulting with medical professionals, it won't be with no information.
 
L K said:
And if he does, it's in the playoffs that he makes his debut.  I'm not sure how I feel about that given the complete uncertainty of his injury recovery.

Regardless, it is pretty clear to me that the Leafs are not allowed to have nice things.  Between Yuskevich's blood clots, Berard's eye, Gilmour's 30 second return, and Bolland's injury, we lose nice pieces that make the team better or at least have a great deal of sentimental value.

It sucks for Bolland, but I think it could be a blessing in disguise, long-term at least. Signing him to a long-term contract would have been a mistake IMO.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
L K said:
And if he does, it's in the playoffs that he makes his debut.  I'm not sure how I feel about that given the complete uncertainty of his injury recovery.

Regardless, it is pretty clear to me that the Leafs are not allowed to have nice things.  Between Yuskevich's blood clots, Berard's eye, Gilmour's 30 second return, and Bolland's injury, we lose nice pieces that make the team better or at least have a great deal of sentimental value.

It sucks for Bolland, but I think it could be a blessing in disguise, long-term at least. Signing him to a long-term contract would have been a mistake IMO.

Agreed.  I was just thinking about the injury happening in the first place.  I'm perfectly ok with him not coming back this year and either walking as a UFA or signing a 1-2 year deal if he gets healthy.
 
L K said:
Agreed.  I was just thinking about the injury happening in the first place. 

That's true. Had Bolland played the whole season his offensive game would have likely tapered off and he might have proved to only be worth $3-3.5mil for 4 years or so, which is a contract that I would be fine signing. That's probably the worst thing about this injury.

The moment that he got injured it meant that if he was getting signed it would have been largely based off that 15-game stretch.
 
I'm wondering how this injury affects Bollands UFA status.  Forget the Leafs,  I think he'll have a difficult time signing a long term deal anywhere given all this uncertainty.  Nobody knows how effective a player he'll be once he finally returns, would be really stupid to commit long term to him at this point. 
 
L K said:
bustaheims said:
Potvin29 said:
Based on that it doesn't sound like he'll be in the lineup anytime soon.

Yeah. He's not playing for the Leafs again this season. At least, that's what I take away from this.

And if he does, it's in the playoffs that he makes his debut.  I'm not sure how I feel about that given the complete uncertainty of his injury recovery.

Regardless, it is pretty clear to me that the Leafs are not allowed to have nice things.  Between Yuskevich's blood clots, Berard's eye, Gilmour's 30 second return, and Bolland's injury, we lose nice pieces that make the team better or at least have a great deal of sentimental value. 

Mike Van Ryn might belong on that list, too.
 
Brian Glennie said:
L K said:
bustaheims said:
Potvin29 said:
Based on that it doesn't sound like he'll be in the lineup anytime soon.

Yeah. He's not playing for the Leafs again this season. At least, that's what I take away from this.

And if he does, it's in the playoffs that he makes his debut.  I'm not sure how I feel about that given the complete uncertainty of his injury recovery.

Regardless, it is pretty clear to me that the Leafs are not allowed to have nice things.  Between Yuskevich's blood clots, Berard's eye, Gilmour's 30 second return, and Bolland's injury, we lose nice pieces that make the team better or at least have a great deal of sentimental value. 

Mike Van Ryn might belong on that list, too.

but imagine if we were NYI we'd have kessel out for the year and would have just had to trade our 2nd best offensive player for essentially nothing.

if we were the jets kadri would have his knee blown out the day before the deadline and still couldn't make any moves to replace him.

no comparables on the leafs to the wings losing datsyuk for 3 weeks after already losing zetterberg for the remainder of the regular season.

so yeah...damn bolland (who still may be back BTW).
 
Zee said:
I'm wondering how this injury affects Bollands UFA status.  Forget the Leafs,  I think he'll have a difficult time signing a long term deal anywhere given all this uncertainty.  Nobody knows how effective a player he'll be once he finally returns, would be really stupid to commit long term to him at this point. 

I think you underestimate the stupidity of NHL GMs.
 
lamajama said:
So Nonis re-signs him long term without knowing of the consequences of his injury....is what you're saying.... :-\

If it wasn't for the uncertainty about the cap ceiling that was raised around the deadline, I'd say that was likely, but, with the potential for the cap to be $3M lower than the last estimate, I imagine (or, at least, I hope) more caution will be taken with re-signing Bolland (and all the other pending UFAs, for that matter).
 
Not to advocate a long-term, expensive contract, but isn't a guy like Bolland what the team is missing? He may have been scoring when he played, but that's not what he was brought in for. I think the idea was that if we had a guy like Bolland last year, we'd have kept that lead and made it to the 2nd round.

Maybe they sign him for more than he's worth and that ends up being a problem. But I for one hope that Bolland is playing for us next year.
 
Brian Glennie said:
L K said:
bustaheims said:
Potvin29 said:
Based on that it doesn't sound like he'll be in the lineup anytime soon.

Yeah. He's not playing for the Leafs again this season. At least, that's what I take away from this.

And if he does, it's in the playoffs that he makes his debut.  I'm not sure how I feel about that given the complete uncertainty of his injury recovery.

Regardless, it is pretty clear to me that the Leafs are not allowed to have nice things.  Between Yuskevich's blood clots, Berard's eye, Gilmour's 30 second return, and Bolland's injury, we lose nice pieces that make the team better or at least have a great deal of sentimental value. 

Mike Van Ryn might belong on that list, too.

Throw in Pilar.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Zee said:
I'm wondering how this injury affects Bollands UFA status.  Forget the Leafs,  I think he'll have a difficult time signing a long term deal anywhere given all this uncertainty.  Nobody knows how effective a player he'll be once he finally returns, would be really stupid to commit long term to him at this point. 

I think you underestimate the stupidity of NHL GMs.

If he doesn't play at all again this season, it would be totally moronic for a GM to give him a long term deal.  I'd like to think they have more sense than that.
 
Zee said:
CarltonTheBear said:
I won't post the link because I don't want to direct traffic to this god awful article, but Dave Feschuk wrote this about Bolland's situation today:

And yet Carlyle, when he?s been asked about Bolland?s availability of late, has responded as though he?s neither fully aware nor half concerned about any of the above.

?It?s up to him now to tell us when he?s ready,? Carlyle said recently.

The coach?s response implies that Bolland should be good to go ? and that if he doesn?t get back on the ice promptly he?s letting down his teammates and the people who pay him, not to mention his poor old coach.

*face palm*

How does Feschuk continue to be employed?

He is officially worse than Steve Simmons.  Just a seems like a miserable guy.
 

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