Dell and Spezza placed on waivers
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bustaheims
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Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
That would be a pretty serious waste of a reserve list spot.
Guilt Trip
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Dell comes off the active roster tomorrow one way or another. Just read a piece by Chris Johnston that said in the event Spezza was claimed, he'd will refuse to report and he'd likely see his contract terminated which would allow him to sign another deal with the Leafs. I don't see anyone making a claim on him when they know he won't report there.herman said:
I think Dell goes to Ottawa. Their current backup has played 24 total NHL games.
herman
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Let?s see if I?m reading this right:
1. Waive Dell and Spezza
2. Call up Engvall and another (Lehtonen?) to max the cap hit (including Robertson) as close to 81.5 as possible, and play that game
3. After the game, send Robertson to LTIR if it?s a full ACL/MCL issue and expand the Leafs upper number to 81.5+0.82
4. On game days, carry 22; on off days carry 20 and drop below 81.5 to accrue a modicum of space
1. Waive Dell and Spezza
2. Call up Engvall and another (Lehtonen?) to max the cap hit (including Robertson) as close to 81.5 as possible, and play that game
3. After the game, send Robertson to LTIR if it?s a full ACL/MCL issue and expand the Leafs upper number to 81.5+0.82
4. On game days, carry 22; on off days carry 20 and drop below 81.5 to accrue a modicum of space
Guilt Trip
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I think you got it.....cap shenanigans for sure.herman said:
herman said:
Can I do an example to test this newly acquired knowledge? Let?s suppose
Player R costs 1 million.
Players S, T costs 1 million each.
The rest of the Leafs (L) cost 79.5
Cap is 81.5
Start of the season:
L + S + R = 81.5
R goes on LTIR
You can replace R with T so you are paying:
L + S + T + R = 82.5
But then you can play just L and not S and not T (but you still pay R) so you are paying:
L + R = 80.5
And now you are accruing (1 million/# of days) per day in that state.
But you can always play S and T any time you want. The cost is just that every time you play S and T (or even just S so you might as well play both from a cap perspective) you go right up to your limit.
I had thought ?once in LTIR, always in LTIR?. But that was wrong (although common ? to drop back under, you?d have to be just barely over in most cases). Sometimes the salary including the injured LTIR player can drop below the cap and then things are just like the player is on the regular IR and you accrue unused space.
herman said:
Engvall and Lehtonen likely won't be the duo to be called up, they only get the Leafs to within $153,592 of the cap. Getting three $700k-ish players would more effective. Playing around with CF and it looks like Hutchinson (725k), Brooks (725k), and then a 700k player like Spezza/Boyd/Marincin would get the Leafs to within $3,592k of the ceiling.
So today's call-ups will be more for cap shenanigans, and then I'm guessing tomorrow they'll reset and bring up Barabanov and Lehtonen.
Guilt Trip
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Brooks on the 4th line wing with Spezza at morning skate.Hutch or similar will be recalled after noon hour I guess depending on Dell situation.CarltonTheBear said:
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Better than an Oiler or Senator at leastcaveman said:
Guilt Trip
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I thought the sens might take a shot at him. I thought he wasn't getting to the Oilers.Crake said:
Highlander
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Quick question, what is to stop anyone from playing the Spezza gambit and saying he is going to retire if claimed and then change his mind and resign with the team?
Why couldn't Dell play the same card?
Why couldn't Dell play the same card?
Guilt Trip
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Dell could have tried the same thing but the team claiming him could say ok, go ahead and retire. Dell would then be out of the NHL for at least a year because once you go on the Voluntarily Retired List, you can't come back for a year unless all teams says it's ok. Teams knew Spezza would just flat out retire and he also carries a lot more respect then a guy like Dell would.Highlander said:
Highlander
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makes sense, is there a window after being claimed that he would actually have file his retirement?
dekedastardly
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A real shame that. In my NHL 21 Be a GM campaign, I traded Andersen away. Campbell & Dell make a serviceable tandem
Guilt Trip
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No but then the team would just suspend him, without pay, for not showing. Most guys aren't going to give up 800K or whatever at his age. They still want to play. Guys like Spezza, Thornton, Perry really don't care about the cash.Highlander said: