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Flames @ Leafs - Oct. 29th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590

That game plumbed new depths of Stupid.

Man, when we are bad, we are baaaaad.  No excuse for this repeated garbage at home.
 
Forwards who have done squat so far this season: Brown, Johnsson (big disappointment there), Leivo, Marleau (sad to say I am beginning to agree that he seems out of gas).

God love Freddie Gauthier but he will never make it.  Time to move on.
 
The Leafs have been pretty brutal since Babcock announced to the league that he was going to start line-matching again. Slow starts, no sustained offence, barely any controlled zone entries, etc.

It doesn?t look good on a coach when the team plays better on the road - when the coach has less opportunity to control the game - than it does at home.
 
This game could have gone either way.  The Leafs got some bad bounces and they still almost tied it up at the end.  It looked like they scored a goal at the end of the second period but the time had expired.  One more second on the clock and it would have been a tie game.

I'm impressed with Kadri personally.  I hope he can keep rolling like this.  He seems to get the team fired up with his late goals.
 
Man, watching Ozhiganov repeatedly give the puck away while Dermott labored on the bench was tiring. Neither him nor Marincin should be in the lineup over Dermott.

Otherwise have to agree with the Babcock comments. He's making the team a lot less dangerous than it is. And my God, these guys have to shoot when they get a decent chance. I think there were about 5 breakaway/partial breakaways where not one shot was even taken. Brown and Hyman were terrible, they need to be banished to the 4th line, and Marner, unexpectedly, was awful last night.

Props to Gardiner and Kapanen, who I think were the team's best skaters. Zaitsev (who has looked a fair bit better this year imo) and Kadri weren't bad either. Gonna need a lot more guys to step up. What a brutal effort.
 
Andy said:
Man, watching Ozhiganov repeatedly give the puck away while Dermott labored on the bench was tiring. Neither him nor Marincin should be in the lineup over Dermott.

Otherwise have to agree with the Babcock comments. He's making the team a lot less dangerous than it is. And my God, these guys have to shoot when they get a decent chance. I think there were about 5 breakaway/partial breakaways where not one shot was even taken. Brown and Hyman were terrible, they need to be banished to the 4th line, and Marner, unexpectedly, was awful last night.

Props to Gardiner and Kapanen, who I think were the team's best skaters. Zaitsev (who has looked a fair bit better this year imo) and Kadri weren't bad either. Gonna need a lot more guys to step up. What a brutal effort.
I don't know where you get that Marner was "awful." He set up their only goal.
 
Bender said:
Andy said:
Man, watching Ozhiganov repeatedly give the puck away while Dermott labored on the bench was tiring. Neither him nor Marincin should be in the lineup over Dermott.

Otherwise have to agree with the Babcock comments. He's making the team a lot less dangerous than it is. And my God, these guys have to shoot when they get a decent chance. I think there were about 5 breakaway/partial breakaways where not one shot was even taken. Brown and Hyman were terrible, they need to be banished to the 4th line, and Marner, unexpectedly, was awful last night.

Props to Gardiner and Kapanen, who I think were the team's best skaters. Zaitsev (who has looked a fair bit better this year imo) and Kadri weren't bad either. Gonna need a lot more guys to step up. What a brutal effort.
I don't know where you get that Marner was "awful." He set up their only goal.

Yes he did, and he was responsible for a ton of giveaways and lazy plays. I thought he stood out as being particularly bad last night, not that that happens often, if at all.
 
I wouldn't pin this all on Marner, but his line got creamed by the Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm line. Shot attempts were 6 for and 14 against for Marner against that trio. And of course he and Rielly combined for that turnover that led to Calgary's 2nd goal.
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Forwards who have done squat so far this season: Brown, Johnsson (big disappointment there), Leivo, Marleau (sad to say I am beginning to agree that he seems out of gas).

God love Freddie Gauthier but he will never make it.  Time to move on.
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I think it's fair to say our structure and playstyle preferences were exploited, with no responding adjustment successfully executed on top of a rather lethargic effort. Andersen played above and beyond his usual self, but no one could muster up any sustained zone time in the OZ because no one could set up coming through the NZ.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
I wouldn't pin this all on Marner, but his line got creamed by the Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm line. Shot attempts were 6 for and 14 against for Marner against that trio. And of course he and Rielly combined for that turnover that led to Calgary's 2nd goal.
I def wouldn't either but he was all kinds of bad last night which isn't the norm for him. With Matthews out, he's going to get the tough assignments now so it should be interesting to see how he does.
 
OldTimeHockey said:
8-4 and players are being banished? Pretty fickle bunch.
Not fickle. Ennis/Lindholm/Brown/Hyman/Marleau/Levio/Gauthier/Johnsson have a combined for a whopping 3 even-strength goals and one was into an empty net.

Everyone was talking depth, we could use it now.
 
I hate to say it, but I caught a bit of the Vancouver game and it was refreshing to see a team consistently attempt to leave their own zone and enter the opposing zone with possession, rather than having a set dump and chase (give away) play because "Hyman is an elite puck retriever". 

It's almost as though Babcock has built the system around Zach Hyman style hockey rather than trusting his skilled guys to do what they're best at. It's an approach that even the most mediocre teams (e.g. Calgary) have very little trouble exploiting.
 

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