Game 17: Leafs @Lightning, 7:30pm - Leafs TV, SUN

[ZBBM]

Habs beat the Rangers....   

 

[pnjunction]

Well at least there was some entertainment in the 3rd

 

[harps64]

Fraser v Aulie  lol.

 

[leafplasma]

Look, it's easy to second-guess Carlyle for not starting the Bus tonite but Scrivens did not have a hard game last nite.  It wasn't totally preposterous, and after all the penalty parade hasn't helped.

Second guessing nothing, said this in last nights gd thread.  Not a hard game ???, 37 shots is no cake walk no matter where the shots are coming from.

It doesn't matter when you said it first, second-guessing means when somebody not in a position to make a decision criticizes a legitimate decision by somebody who is.

And last night was hardly a difficult game for Scrivens, especially as it went on.

Bottom line: it was a tough decision for Carlyle, and either way he would get criticized if it went south, which it did.

Haha, I guess that would be hindsight.  Well I think I would have taken a loss with Rynnas any day over messing with Scrivens who was on top of the world just last night. Now thrust into this game playing tired and with this result I am sure he feels just terrible now.  This isn't a vet here, it is a rookie with what less than 10 NHL starts under his belt.  I think it was a bad decision and the writing was on the wall.  If I was RC, I don't take that risk, just saying.

 

[ZBBM]

Look, it's easy to second-guess Carlyle for not starting the Bus tonite but Scrivens did not have a hard game last nite.  It wasn't totally preposterous, and after all the penalty parade hasn't helped.

Second guessing nothing, said this in last nights gd thread.  Not a hard game ???, 37 shots is no cake walk no matter where the shots are coming from.

It doesn't matter when you said it first, second-guessing means when somebody not in a position to make a decision criticizes a legitimate decision by somebody who is.

And last night was hardly a difficult game for Scrivens, especially as it went on.

Bottom line: it was a tough decision for Carlyle, and either way he would get criticized if it went south, which it did.

Haha, I guess that would be hindsight.  Well I think I would have taken a loss with Rynnas any day over messing with Scrivens who was on top of the world just last night. Now thrust into this game playing tired and with this result I am sure he feels just terrible now.  This isn't a vet here, it is a rookie with what less than 10 NHL starts under his belt.  I think it was a bad decision and the writing was on the wall.  If I was RC, I don't take that risk, just saying.

Your point is totally legit, and in fact in last nite's GDT I suggested Rynnas might be the better choice, but I see why RC did what he did.

 

[ZBBM]

Haha, this game totally boring until they decided to play pond hockey the last 3 minutes.

 

[Britishbulldog]

Fraser v Aulie  lol.

;D

Love it!

 

[pnjunction]

Well hindsight is 20/20 they should have gone with the fresh goaltender.  Feel bad for Scrivens, that 3rd goal was brutal and flushed the game.

 

[leafplasma]

Kessel now with 4 goals in his last 7 games and the stars are once again aligned.

 

[Britishbulldog]

Flashes of Dougie from Naz.

Yup.  I like the chemistry of the team and when Lupul and Frattin get back it will even be better.

 

[Bender]

Look, it's easy to second-guess Carlyle for not starting the Bus tonite but Scrivens did not have a hard game last nite.  It wasn't totally preposterous, and after all the penalty parade hasn't helped.

Second guessing nothing, said this in last nights gd thread.  Not a hard game ???, 37 shots is no cake walk no matter where the shots are coming from.

It doesn't matter when you said it first, second-guessing means when somebody not in a position to make a decision criticizes a legitimate decision by somebody who is.

And last night was hardly a difficult game for Scrivens, especially as it went on.

Bottom line: it was a tough decision for Carlyle, and either way he would get criticized if it went south, which it did.

Haha, I guess that would be hindsight.  Well I think I would have taken a loss with Rynnas any day over messing with Scrivens who was on top of the world just last night. Now thrust into this game playing tired and with this result I am sure he feels just terrible now.  This isn't a vet here, it is a rookie with what less than 10 NHL starts under his belt.  I think it was a bad decision and the writing was on the wall.  If I was RC, I don't take that risk, just saying.

Your point is totally legit, and in fact in last nite's GDT I suggested Rynnas might be the better choice, but I see why RC did what he did.

I don't think playing Rynnas in any way guarantees a win or even puts them in a better position to win.

 

[Bender]

Well hindsight is 20/20 they should have gone with the fresh goaltender.  Feel bad for Scrivens, that 3rd goal was brutal and flushed the game.

Wouldn't have guaranteed a better game at all considering Rynnas really isn't ready for the NHL even as a backup.

 

[leafplasma]

Actually did they give the goal to JVR and Kessel with the assist?

 

[Bender]

Haha, this game totally boring until they decided to play pond hockey the last 3 minutes.

Yeah what a weird finish. A bounce or two and we'd be in it towards the end. I can live with a loss after a good record, plus its a back to back. Rest up, on to the next one!

 

[leafplasma]

Look, it's easy to second-guess Carlyle for not starting the Bus tonite but Scrivens did not have a hard game last nite.  It wasn't totally preposterous, and after all the penalty parade hasn't helped.

Second guessing nothing, said this in last nights gd thread.  Not a hard game ???, 37 shots is no cake walk no matter where the shots are coming from.

It doesn't matter when you said it first, second-guessing means when somebody not in a position to make a decision criticizes a legitimate decision by somebody who is.

And last night was hardly a difficult game for Scrivens, especially as it went on.

Bottom line: it was a tough decision for Carlyle, and either way he would get criticized if it went south, which it did.

Haha, I guess that would be hindsight.  Well I think I would have taken a loss with Rynnas any day over messing with Scrivens who was on top of the world just last night. Now thrust into this game playing tired and with this result I am sure he feels just terrible now.  This isn't a vet here, it is a rookie with what less than 10 NHL starts under his belt.  I think it was a bad decision and the writing was on the wall.  If I was RC, I don't take that risk, just saying.

Your point is totally legit, and in fact in last nite's GDT I suggested Rynnas might be the better choice, but I see why RC did what he did.

I don't think playing Rynnas in any way guarantees a win or even puts them in a better position to win.

Well all I was saying was that I take the sure loss with Rynnas over messing with what Scrivens had going.  Walking into a back to back, tired and in the NHL's leading offensive teams barn was not going to end up good.

 

[leafplasma]

It appears that JVR gets credit and Kessel and Bozak get assists, did I hear wrong and was that goal changed.  I need to go back and watch the highlight.

 

[Bender]

Look, it's easy to second-guess Carlyle for not starting the Bus tonite but Scrivens did not have a hard game last nite.  It wasn't totally preposterous, and after all the penalty parade hasn't helped.

Second guessing nothing, said this in last nights gd thread.  Not a hard game ???, 37 shots is no cake walk no matter where the shots are coming from.

It doesn't matter when you said it first, second-guessing means when somebody not in a position to make a decision criticizes a legitimate decision by somebody who is.

And last night was hardly a difficult game for Scrivens, especially as it went on.

Bottom line: it was a tough decision for Carlyle, and either way he would get criticized if it went south, which it did.

Haha, I guess that would be hindsight.  Well I think I would have taken a loss with Rynnas any day over messing with Scrivens who was on top of the world just last night. Now thrust into this game playing tired and with this result I am sure he feels just terrible now.  This isn't a vet here, it is a rookie with what less than 10 NHL starts under his belt.  I think it was a bad decision and the writing was on the wall.  If I was RC, I don't take that risk, just saying.

Your point is totally legit, and in fact in last nite's GDT I suggested Rynnas might be the better choice, but I see why RC did what he did.

I don't think playing Rynnas in any way guarantees a win or even puts them in a better position to win.

Well all I was saying was that I take the sure loss with Rynnas over messing with what Scrivens had going.  Walking into a back to back, tired and in the NHL's leading offensive teams barn was not going to end up good.

A loss is a loss, who starts is irrelevant unless they give you a better chance to win. Even coming off a previous game I think riding a hot hand makes sense and Scrivens would give the team a better chance to win than Rynnas. A fresh Rynnas I would say is not any better than a tired Scrivens at the NHL level imo.

 

[pnjunction]

Well hindsight is 20/20 they should have gone with the fresh goaltender.  Feel bad for Scrivens, that 3rd goal was brutal and flushed the game.

Wouldn't have guaranteed a better game at all considering Rynnas really isn't ready for the NHL even as a backup.

It's not about the loss so much as the way Scrivens was chased and went to the locker room dejected.  I suppose if Rynnas is as rough as everyone says then there was no choice.

 

[TML fan]

The way I see it, if you lose your confidence after one bad outing, you're probably not an NHL goalie, and it doesn't matter who they start.

Lets be honest, if Rynnas started and the outcome was the same we'd be talking about how Scrivens should have started.

Personally, I'd have yanked Scrivens after the 3rd goal, but only because I believe the game was lost at that point.

 

[ZBBM]

Let me just add that the 3rd goalie on your depth chart had better be able to come in and start a game or two or else you need more depth at goalie.  In the g/t conundrum thread somebody just called Rynnas a career AHLer.  Funny, I thought he was still considered a prospect.