Game 17: Leafs @Lightning, 7:30pm - Leafs TV, SUN

[bustaheims]

The way I see it, if you lose your confidence after one bad outing, you're probably not an NHL goalie, and it doesn't matter who they start.

This. He's a pro. If he can't handle being yanked, he should find another way to earn a pay cheque.

 

[louisstamos]

To be fair, though, he's already been yanked once this season vs NYI...and he responded with a win in his next game vs Washington

 

[bustaheims]

To be fair, though, he's already been yanked once this season vs NYI...and he responded with a win in his next game vs Washington

I don't think it will be an issue. I was talking more in terms of generalities. If you can't handle having a bad game and/or being yanked, you shouldn't try to earn a living as a professional hockey goalie. If one game has that much impact on your confidence, you're not going to have much of a career.

 

[L K]

The way I see it, if you lose your confidence after one bad outing, you're probably not an NHL goalie, and it doesn't matter who they start.

This. He's a pro. If he can't handle being yanked, he should find another way to earn a pay cheque.

Also it probably has more to do with the law of averages than anything else:

He had a .939 SV% coming into the game.  That wasn't sustainable from a guy who isn't exactly touted as a top 5 NHL goaltender.

 

[Heroic Shrimp]

EDIT: Does anyone remember that game in Detroit some years ago where the penalties where like 8 or 9 (maybe more) for the Leafs to none (or very few) for the Wings?

That was the night in which part of Omallley famously died.

 

[Bonsixx]

That Kessel shot off the post on the late 2-on-1 was such a "Kessel in a nutshell" moment. Snipe that and it could be a different result.

 

[Bender]

The way I see it, if you lose your confidence after one bad outing, you're probably not an NHL goalie, and it doesn't matter who they start.

This. He's a pro. If he can't handle being yanked, he should find another way to earn a pay cheque.

Also it probably has more to do with the law of averages than anything else:

He had a .939 SV% coming into the game.  That wasn't sustainable from a guy who isn't exactly touted as a top 5 NHL goaltender.

Wasn't that long ago that we lit up Fleury.

I'm not saying Scrivens is going to play lights out the rest of the year but there's no reason to write him off after a bad game. All goalies have bad games sometimes.

 

[hockeyfan1]

``I don't know if we demonstrated enough determination or desperation until the last 7 minutes of the hockey game,'' Toronto coach Randy Carlyle said. ``It seemed like we were a flat group for a good period of the game, but at one point I looked up, it was 2-1 after two periods, and we'd only given up 10 shots. If it wasn't for the lopsided number of power plays, I don't know if we would have given up 15 shots in the game.''

``It seems like I was getting some fortunate bounces the last couple of games, and today they bounced the other way,'' Scrivens said. ``That's the nature of the game. Those are the breaks.''

http://mapleleafs.nhl.com/club/recap.htm?id=2012020229

 

[Zee]

Why wasn't Scrivens pulled after the 3rd goal?  It was obvious at that point he was fighting the puck and didn't have it on the night.  There was still time to mount a comeback when it was 3-1 provided a goalie doesn't let in #4.

 

[Stickytape]

I know it was a loss, but I see some silver linings here.  Grabbo got the monkey off his back, the leafs didn't look anywhere near as tired in a back-to-back game as they did last year, and we get to see how Scrivens bounces back from this.

I know Scrivens would have liked those last two goals back, but the first two I chalk up to bad defensive zone turnovers.  I'm more upset about the dumb penalty he took - he seemed frustrated, and that's about the point where things went south.  The rest of the team took some dumb penalties, too, and the officiating wasn't wonderful either.

Anyway, what counts is how the team shows up on Thursday.  I hope to see some life in Grabbo and his line, now, and that Scrivens takes this opportunity to show everyone what he's really made of.

 

[dappleganger]

Just wanted to say that I loved Kadri standing up to Hedman. I love when a smaller player takes on a bigger opponent.

Also, I thought Kadri played a good game and started opening his bag of tricks after the score was 4-1.

I think Kadri has a long future as a Maple Leaf.

 

[Zee]

Just wanted to say that I loved Kadri standing up to Hedman. I love when a smaller player takes on a bigger opponent.

Also, I thought Kadri played a good game and started opening his bag of tricks after the score was 4-1.

I think Kadri has a long future as a Maple Leaf.

I hope so.  Kadri has a bit of an edge to him to go along with the skill.  If he keeps developing like we've seen in the last month he'll have a great future in the NHL.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Just wanted to say that I loved Kadri standing up to Hedman. I love when a smaller player takes on a bigger opponent.

Also, I thought Kadri played a good game and started opening his bag of tricks after the score was 4-1.

I think Kadri has a long future as a Maple Leaf.

I hope so.  Kadri has a bit of an edge to him to go along with the skill.  If he keeps developing like we've seen in the last month he'll have a great future in the NHL.

I'm always worried he's going to get a diving penalty with some of the reactions he has to contact.

 

[Kessel Run]

The lack of OT/SO points is going to haunt us down the line. Most other teams are cashing in on those free points.

10-4-3 is a lot better than 10-7-0. The good teams find ways to push it into overtime.

 

[TML fan]

By my count, of the 7 losses, the Leafs were only in the game for one of them. Admittedly I didn't see much of the Tampa game, but for the 7 or so minutes I watched, the Leafs gave up two goals so it didn't look like they had much fight.

When they lose, they don't leave much doubt.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

By my count, of the 7 losses, the Leafs were only in the game for one of them. Admittedly I didn't see much of the Tampa game, but for the 7 or so minutes I watched, the Leafs gave up two goals so it didn't look like they had much fight.

When they lose, they don't leave much doubt.

They were in the Buffalo and Boston games.  Even arguably the Islanders game they were "in" depending on how it is judged.

 

[TML fan]

By my count, of the 7 losses, the Leafs were only in the game for one of them. Admittedly I didn't see much of the Tampa game, but for the 7 or so minutes I watched, the Leafs gave up two goals so it didn't look like they had much fight.

When they lose, they don't leave much doubt.

They were in the Buffalo and Boston games.  Even arguably the Islanders game they were "in" depending on how it is judged.

The Buffalo game was the one game I was referring to. I didn't think they were in the Boston game. I thought they played most of the game without the puck and never had any sustained or meaningful pressure, much like the game in New York. I thought they played a fine 20 or so minutes against the Islanders.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

I just think a 1-0 game with a disallowed goal that should've made it 1-1 (and who knows could have changed the game) is a game we were in, it was a tight game.

 

[TML fan]

I just think a 1-0 game with a disallowed goal that should've made it 1-1 (and who knows could have changed the game) is a game we were in, it was a tight game.

Well, don't forget Boston had a disallowed goal as well, so the Leafs still lose if we are talking about should'ves.

Sometimes the score doesn't tell the whole story.

 

[lc9]

Yeah, the lack of OTL points is going to kill us.  If you lose you have to find a way to get some points out of it.  I agree that it has seemed that the games they have lost they haven't really been in the game.

Need to start finding ways to get points even on off nights. 

And what the heck is with Montreal, I have only seen them play twice this year and they have been completely dismantled by the leafs.  Then they win every other game.