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Game 53: Oilers @ Maple Leafs 7:00Pm Sportsnet/am640 The duel of Hot Hands!

I think the Leafs are trying to put as many in as possible, seeing that their (Edmonton's) defense is so bad. Have to be patient for the chances, they'll obviously come.
 
A line that God himself could not stop?  Lupul, Kessel and Grabovski on the ice at the same time leads to a goal.
 
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Something I've noticed about the Oilers tonight is that, yeah, they have a lot of really skilled players, but, they all seem to try too hard to make really fancy, pretty plays instead of making smart, simple plays. It works for them sometimes, but, a lot of the time, it just ends up with the puck in the back of their own net. They're not going to go anywhere until they learn where and when the fancy plays are going to work and where and when they won't.
 
and to think that the Leafs can still get a 4th round pick in 2013 in the "Beachemin" trade... by far, the best move from Burke
 
Cap'n Crunch said:
Tigger said:
Cap'n Crunch said:
Tigger said:
Cap'n Crunch said:
He is the cog that drives the team more then even Phil and Lupal.

He's good but, uh, no.

He has had more then a few games where he's been held off the scoresheet but grabbo's energy and never quit attitude set the tone for others. He plays a better all around game then either Lupal or Phil by and large.

I'm not knocking either of the other guys don't get me wrong but I just believe that grabbo's value to other teams is one thing but to ours as a whole it's on a completely other level.

His line makes life for the first much easier as other teams have to pick and choose their coverage wisely. God forbid both of these lines get on fire at the same time. We'd make the playoffs for sure then.

Sorry man, no offence or anything but Grabovski isn't doing what they are ( and I'm a big fan of his, probably my second favourite Leaf, fwiw )

They both def feed of each other to a degree but those bunch of guys one the second line just hustle their asses off.

With the way grabbo sets up gift wrapped goals to his linemates I see him as one of the select few players around who on a reg basis make others around them better, not just complimenting them. I guess we'll have to be happy to disagree and be even happier that in this case we both win in the end with both lines seeming to be getting their stride together at the same time.

No problem agreeing to disagree, my fav Leaf is Kulemin who is all about hustle but Lupul and Kessel are on a different plane when it comes to offence.

To me the fact that we're kind of discussing Grabovski as an upcoming ufa but still not making Kessel money is sort of indicative of the importance of which player here.
 
bustaheims said:
Something I've noticed about the Oilers tonight is that, yeah, they have a lot of really skilled players, but, they all seem to try too hard to make really fancy, pretty plays instead of making smart, simple plays. It works for them sometimes, but, a lot of the time, it just ends up with the puck in the back of their own net. They're not going to go anywhere until they learn where and when the fancy plays are going to work and where and when they won't.

Mirtle has an article today about which rebuild would you rather have: the Leafs or Oilers.  The Oilers have the higher end young talent obviously, but he points out that they might have some contract issues with them before they see the results from them.
 
Tigger said:
Cap'n Crunch said:
Tigger said:
lamajama said:
Tigger said:
Cap'n Crunch said:
He is the cog that drives the team more then even Phil and Lupal.

He's good but, uh, no.

Well game in game out he gives a stronger more consistant effort than 81 and 19. He's certainly a key component.

I agree with the second sentence but how can you deny Lupul and Kessels influence here? I mean it's a team game but, c'mon, they've been pretty darn consistent.

I'm not saying that they are not key pieces I just think that grabbo's all around game is more rounded and dangerous. He plays 200 feet of hockey all night long every night. I can't think of many if any games that I have seen grabbo just coasting unlike Phil. He's been better but still needs to up his compete level to Grabbo's level imho.

I don't agree with that, Phil has very few instances of coasting this season, not that Mik does either but in the end the results kind of matter here.

Lupul coasting? Don't see that either.

Yes Phil has started to turn his two way game around and has made big improvement for sure Grabbo's has been more comple?e for a longer period.

I think the only real difference between the scoreboard results from each line is that bozak has bounced back and Kuil has had emotional personal baggage that has affected him in every aspect of his life for a while. Looks like he's been getting his hustle back as of late tho.

 

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