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Game of Thrones (S6)

CarltonTheBear said:
bustaheims said:
CarltonTheBear said:
At that point though he was still loyal to the Nights Watch. They made it seem like he really wanted to accept but that was getting in the way. Now that that's over with I'm guessing he helps Dany win the thrown and she legitimizes him as the Lord of Winterfell.

That's likely. One of the theories out there is that he'll be riding one of the remaining dragons (likely Rhaegal - since it's potentially named after his father).

Yeah. Dany's the Queen, Tyrion's the Hand, Jon's the Lord of Winterfell. With them all potentially being linked through blood. That's basically the expected happy ending version of this story.

so does that mean sansa is still married to tyrion?
 
CarltonTheBear said:
She was technically married to Ramsey too, right? Anyway yeah neither would stick.

She was definitely married to Ramsey. The marriage to Tyrion was never consummated, whereas with Ramsey, it was (though, not exactly willingly). She's now technically a widow.
 
The other thing regarding the Sansa/Littlefinger decision is that it does seem like they blew a bit of an opportunity to inject some drama into what was, as Carlton says, fairly predictable.

The way I remember the Sansa/Littlefinger scene from earlier in the season where she lays into him for giving her to Ramsey he was offering to do whatever she asked as recompense so the idea that she might have kept her decision from Jon because she wouldn't approve of his pervy demands seems contrary to that.

Of course, Littlefinger is a slimebag so he very well could have made that offer and then refused or realized her need and demanded she do whatever but if so...wouldn't that at the very least interject some real stakes into her decision? If we knew that the Knights showing up meant she'd sold herself to someone she despised it would have been thoroughly bittersweet and would have been emblematic of real sacrifice on her part.

As it is, we knew they were showing up and they did.
 
Nik the Trik said:
The other thing regarding the Sansa/Littlefinger decision is that it does seem like they blew a bit of an opportunity to inject some drama into what was, as Carlton says, fairly predictable.

The way I remember the Sansa/Littlefinger scene from earlier in the season where she lays into him for giving her to Ramsey he was offering to do whatever she asked as recompense so the idea that she might have kept her decision from Jon because she wouldn't approve of his pervy demands seems contrary to that.

Of course, Littlefinger is a slimebag so he very well could have made that offer and then refused or realized her need and demanded she do whatever but if so...wouldn't that at the very least interject some real stakes into her decision? If we knew that the Knights showing up meant she'd sold herself to someone she despised it would have been thoroughly bittersweet and would have been emblematic of real sacrifice on her part.

As it is, we knew they were showing up and they did.

They can cover it in the aftermath though.  No need to turn away from the battle.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
bustaheims said:
CarltonTheBear said:
At that point though he was still loyal to the Nights Watch. They made it seem like he really wanted to accept but that was getting in the way. Now that that's over with I'm guessing he helps Dany win the thrown and she legitimizes him as the Lord of Winterfell.

That's likely. One of the theories out there is that he'll be riding one of the remaining dragons (likely Rhaegal - since it's potentially named after his father).

Yeah. Dany's the Queen, Tyrion's the Hand, Jon's the Lord of Winterfell. With them all potentially being linked through blood. That's basically the expected happy ending version of this story.

Yeah but it's so boring. I mean I will never recommend the show it anyone if Dany wins hands down in the end.

She has never really had a struggle where she was in any true danger. Something always works out for her. Are we really ok with a show that tipped its hand in Season 1, had a bunch of extraneous pointless shit happen in the middle and have Dany just steamroll everyone in Westeros in the end.
 
Bender said:
CarltonTheBear said:
bustaheims said:
CarltonTheBear said:
At that point though he was still loyal to the Nights Watch. They made it seem like he really wanted to accept but that was getting in the way. Now that that's over with I'm guessing he helps Dany win the thrown and she legitimizes him as the Lord of Winterfell.

That's likely. One of the theories out there is that he'll be riding one of the remaining dragons (likely Rhaegal - since it's potentially named after his father).

Yeah. Dany's the Queen, Tyrion's the Hand, Jon's the Lord of Winterfell. With them all potentially being linked through blood. That's basically the expected happy ending version of this story.

Yeah but it's so boring. I mean I will never recommend the show it anyone if Dany wins hands down in the end.

She has never really had a struggle where she was in any true danger. Something always works out for her. Are we really ok with a show that tipped its hand in Season 1, had a bunch of extraneous pointless shit happen in the middle and have Dany just steamroll everyone in Westeros in the end.

Was Aragorn not supposed to go from being a ranger living in exile to restoring the glory of the Numenor?

At the end of the day, these are the stories and ultimate endings we cherish.
 
TBLeafer said:
Bender said:
CarltonTheBear said:
bustaheims said:
CarltonTheBear said:
At that point though he was still loyal to the Nights Watch. They made it seem like he really wanted to accept but that was getting in the way. Now that that's over with I'm guessing he helps Dany win the thrown and she legitimizes him as the Lord of Winterfell.

That's likely. One of the theories out there is that he'll be riding one of the remaining dragons (likely Rhaegal - since it's potentially named after his father).

Yeah. Dany's the Queen, Tyrion's the Hand, Jon's the Lord of Winterfell. With them all potentially being linked through blood. That's basically the expected happy ending version of this story.

Yeah but it's so boring. I mean I will never recommend the show it anyone if Dany wins hands down in the end.

She has never really had a struggle where she was in any true danger. Something always works out for her. Are we really ok with a show that tipped its hand in Season 1, had a bunch of extraneous pointless shit happen in the middle and have Dany just steamroll everyone in Westeros in the end.

Was Aragorn not supposed to go from being a ranger living in exile to restoring the glory of the Numenor?

At the end of the day, these are the stories and ultimate endings we cherish.

The show is different. It kills people at random and hardly anything ever goes right, except pretty much always for Dany. We found out pretty much right away what her intentions were. I also find her very boring and self-righteous. I mean, oh no she's captured by Dothraki. She just ends up doing what happened in season 1 to win them back again. Struggle!
 
Bender said:
TBLeafer said:
Bender said:
CarltonTheBear said:
bustaheims said:
CarltonTheBear said:
At that point though he was still loyal to the Nights Watch. They made it seem like he really wanted to accept but that was getting in the way. Now that that's over with I'm guessing he helps Dany win the thrown and she legitimizes him as the Lord of Winterfell.

That's likely. One of the theories out there is that he'll be riding one of the remaining dragons (likely Rhaegal - since it's potentially named after his father).

Yeah. Dany's the Queen, Tyrion's the Hand, Jon's the Lord of Winterfell. With them all potentially being linked through blood. That's basically the expected happy ending version of this story.

Yeah but it's so boring. I mean I will never recommend the show it anyone if Dany wins hands down in the end.

She has never really had a struggle where she was in any true danger. Something always works out for her. Are we really ok with a show that tipped its hand in Season 1, had a bunch of extraneous pointless shit happen in the middle and have Dany just steamroll everyone in Westeros in the end.

Was Aragorn not supposed to go from being a ranger living in exile to restoring the glory of the Numenor?

At the end of the day, these are the stories and ultimate endings we cherish.

The show is different. It kills people at random and hardly anything ever goes right, except pretty much always for Dany. We found out pretty much right away what her intentions were. I also find her very boring and self-righteous. I mean, oh no she's captured by Dothraki. She just ends up doing what happened in season 1 to win them back again. Struggle!

Her whole royal line will end with her though.  Everything going right?  She can't bear children, meaning an heir and her dragons are cool and all, but they can't succeed her to the throne now can they?
 
TBLeafer said:
Her whole royal line will end with her though.  Everything going right?  She can't bear children, meaning an heir and her dragons are cool and all, but they can't succeed her to the throne now can they?

Maybe that's what she'll want? She's using her royal line to justify why she should have the throne, but like she said that's to make the world a better place. Maybe making the world a better place will involve making whoever succeeds her being the most deserving person, not just whoever is related to her.
 
Bender said:
TBLeafer said:
Bender said:
CarltonTheBear said:
bustaheims said:
CarltonTheBear said:
At that point though he was still loyal to the Nights Watch. They made it seem like he really wanted to accept but that was getting in the way. Now that that's over with I'm guessing he helps Dany win the thrown and she legitimizes him as the Lord of Winterfell.

That's likely. One of the theories out there is that he'll be riding one of the remaining dragons (likely Rhaegal - since it's potentially named after his father).

Yeah. Dany's the Queen, Tyrion's the Hand, Jon's the Lord of Winterfell. With them all potentially being linked through blood. That's basically the expected happy ending version of this story.

Yeah but it's so boring. I mean I will never recommend the show it anyone if Dany wins hands down in the end.

She has never really had a struggle where she was in any true danger. Something always works out for her. Are we really ok with a show that tipped its hand in Season 1, had a bunch of extraneous pointless shit happen in the middle and have Dany just steamroll everyone in Westeros in the end.

Was Aragorn not supposed to go from being a ranger living in exile to restoring the glory of the Numenor?

At the end of the day, these are the stories and ultimate endings we cherish.

The show is different. It kills people at random and hardly anything ever goes right, except pretty much always for Dany. We found out pretty much right away what her intentions were. I also find her very boring and self-righteous. I mean, oh no she's captured by Dothraki. She just ends up doing what happened in season 1 to win them back again. Struggle!

It wasn't so much the fire survival as burning down the Vaes Dothrak and killing a bunch of Khal's in the process.  She essentially won them over in a trial by combat, even though the trial was simply burning them alive. 
 
CarltonTheBear said:
TBLeafer said:
Her whole royal line will end with her though.  Everything going right?  She can't bear children, meaning an heir and her dragons are cool and all, but they can't succeed her to the throne now can they?

Maybe that's what she'll want? She's using her royal line to justify why she should have the throne, but like she said that's to make the world a better place. Maybe making the world a better place will involve making whoever succeeds her being the most deserving person, not just whoever is related to her.

Could be.  I don't see the story going far enough to find out how Dany chooses an heir and meets her eventual end, should she end up claiming the iron throne in the first place.

I'd expect it would end with her reign beginning.

 
What an odd way to end Tommen.  How very Romeo of him.

So Dorne and Higarden have allied with Daenerys before she even lands in Westeros.  Well done Eunuch!
 
In a way, that episode was immensely satisfying as we got pretty great moments from each of the characters we actually know/care about.

In another way, that episode being so satisfying seems sort of a by-product of what was so frustrating about this season. They dragged out every storyline, at times unnecessarily, to this point and then tied them up all at once. Some of that stuff, I think, could have been handled by mid-season.

But, damn, my thing for Lena Headey only gets stronger. 
 
Nik the Trik said:
In a way, that episode was immensely satisfying as we got pretty great moments from each of the characters we actually know/care about.

In another way, that episode being so satisfying seems sort of a by-product of what was so frustrating about this season. They dragged out every storyline, at times unnecessarily, to this point and then tied them up all at once. Some of that stuff, I think, could have been handled by mid-season.

But, damn, my thing for Lena Headey only gets stronger.

Long won't she reign.  :P

Frey met a fitting end and Arya has certainly remembered her list...
 
Nik the Trik said:
In a way, that episode was immensely satisfying as we got pretty great moments from each of the characters we actually know/care about.

In another way, that episode being so satisfying seems sort of a by-product of what was so frustrating about this season. They dragged out every storyline, at times unnecessarily, to this point and then tied them up all at once. Some of that stuff, I think, could have been handled by mid-season.

But, damn, my thing for Lena Headey only gets stronger.

That's a good synopsis, I think.

The whole story is a mix of frustration and satisfaction.
 
Immensely satisfying is exactly right.

Part of that is due to the frustration of delay. So many scenes bookended moments of earlier seasons.

Random character thoughts:
  • Cersei Lannister takes budget cuts seriously: 9! speaking roles axed in one series of events
  • Jaime "Wingman" Lannister: words are now his sword
  • Olenna Tyrell: says what we all think; has more venom than all the Sand Snakes combined
  • Melisandre: sent home early for bad behaviour
  • Davos Seaworth: the best
  • Samwell Tarley: OMGs it's full of books!
  • Walder Frey: got served
  • Arya Stark: the Dexter of Westeros
  • Bran Stark: thanks Benjen profusely, does not even make eye contact with Meera
  • Tommen Baratheon: the thing he does for love
  • Margaery Tyrell: playing the long ga-
  • Loras Tyrell: pray away the ga-
  • Lyanna Mormont: fierce
  • Petyr Baelish: shows his cards; would probably send creepy texts and pictures
  • Tyrion Lannister: Hand of the Queen
  • Varys: master of teleportation
  • Daenerys Targaryen: reciter of titles, renamer of bays
  • Sansa Stark: expert at knitwork; now holds the threads of power
  • Jon Snow: the White Wolf! the Prince that was Promised
  • Ghost: still nowhere to be seen
 

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