General Leafs Talk: Post-Olympics Edition
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L K
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Mt. Kushmore said:
Or just more "intangibles" garbage that magically make teams better.
Nazem Kadri - 23 years old - 173 GP 45G 67A 112P
David Bolland - 27 years old - 354 GP 78G 102A 180P
Kadri's been very durable so far in his career. I'm going to be generous and when I project his numbers moving foward I'm going to use seasons of 70GP rather than the pace-projected 78 games a year that he would play.
Nazem Kadri at age 27 - 453GP 118G 175A 293P
Nazem Kadri at Bolland's 354GP 92G 137A 229P
I like Bolland, but if the choice is Bolland v. Kadri, I pick Kadri.
L K
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mc said:
He's full of himself. He makes faces on the bench. He shakes his head after some penalties.
A bunch of stuff got attributed to him in his last year with the Knights when he was playing on a fairly pedestrian team. He literally carried that team on his back but in doing so would play selfish at times (he would spend the 1st half of the game trying to set up his teammates for goals and they would flub passes or fail to score on tap ins), then in the 2nd half of the game he would go into goal-scoring mode deke through 4 guys and try and score by himself. This somehow earned him the reputation of being selfish and a guy who was full of himself.
Most of it is a load of junk. He definitely has a bit of an ego about his game, but it honestly really isn't any different than 90% of players who have a lot of faith in their own abilities. Again for some reason Kadri's is apparently this sin amongst men.
Nik the Trik said:
Bolland's potential contract would have to be a part of the equation too.
GhostofPotvin29
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Bolland was a 3C on a Cup winning team, can't see him ever improving to be more than that at age 27 on a team that hopes to be that one day. Don't see the point then in keeping a 27 year old versus a 23 year old who's going to out produce him, and probably very easily. Think Bolland's value is overstated, and even if it isn't, I think what he brings is easier to find for cheaper than it is to find Kadri's skillset.
Nik the Trik said:
I can't imagine Kadri's contract ever carrying negative value though. Bolland's potential contract (6 or 7 years at $4-5mil per) scares the crap out of me.
Potvin29 said:
4 years ago. He was 4C during their playoff run last year.
louisstamos
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Deebo said:
It's possible, but Patrick Kane and Tyler Seguin also received similar treatment over "off-ice" issues.
L K said:
I believe there was 1 instance where Burke went to visit and talk with Kadri. Speculation was that Kadri was disappointed with not making the Leafs or something. Whether true or not, I think this 'Kadri is a problem' stuff all stems from that 1 thing and people's tendency to blow things out of proportion.
Nik the Trik said:
Not comfortable at all. I don't think a smart GM offers either of those contracts though, but that's a different problem to address I guess.
Strangelove
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If Kadri is replaced in the lineup long term by Bolland, a guy with middling offensive talent and who has looked extremely suspect defensively, I'll probably be done cheering for this team for a good while. The last thing the Leafs need is more David Clarkson-esque "talent."
Dreger seems like he has gone absolutely crazy over the past year or so.
Dreger seems like he has gone absolutely crazy over the past year or so.
Nik the Trik said:
Yeah, but even if he scores at the rate you said I highly doubt Kadri goes looking for $7mil a season. So strictly hypothetically speaking if we're looking at all angles in a Kadri vs. Bolland debate I'm much more comfortable with the value of a potential Kadri extension than the value of a potential Bolland extension.