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Goaltending conundrum v3.0-Reimer or Bernier?

?@markhmasters: Carlyle just called Scrivens, Reimer over at end of practice ... Quick chat ... Reimer tapped Scrivens pad at end?

Take what you want out of this but I believe we see Scrivens start Sat night.  He had a better camp and he is in mid-season form.  Nothing against Reimer but given the circumstances I think this is the best call.  We will see Reimer soon enough.
 
Well, these two they played as a tandem in the AHL, they know each other  and it seems to me they get along pretty well. I would not call it a controversy. Reimer himself said few days ago that given the tight schedule it is obvious that the split of the duties would be quite even. Saturday is Ben, next game is James. I have no problem with that.
 
Jamie McLennan is saying he thinks Reimer is getting the start based on what he saw in practice.
 
WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:
Carlyle basically said this wont be a tandem, I'd someone gives them a chance to win, they'll keep the jersey.
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So we're going to have a starter but he just don't know who it is yet.
 
The theme from training camp, from both Nonis & Carlyle, seems to be that they're going to reward those who showed up and played the best and they would give consideration for what Scrivens did in the AHL last year and his recent AHL run this season. On that basis, it wouldn't surprise me if Scrivens won the starting job for the first game.

Whoever doesn't start will get ample opportunity to decide the issue as the season unfolds.
 
WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:
Carlyle basically said this wont be a tandem, I'd someone gives them a chance to win, they'll keep the jersey.
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So, basically, it is a tandem them? Whoever is playing best gets the net.
 
bustaheims said:
WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:
Carlyle basically said this wont be a tandem, I'd someone gives them a chance to win, they'll keep the jersey.
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So, basically, it is a tandem them? Whoever is playing best gets the net.
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He brought up that there are teams who are going to basically ride one goalie all the way as kind of an example of what he had planned.

He was directly asked if they where going to split the games like a tandem and he said no, he said that if whoever gets the start Saturday stops the puck then they will run with that person. If not he would give the other a chance and if they do well they keep the job.

I think a lot of times people think of a tandem as two guys who basically get a set number of starts almost no matter what, that's definitely not the plan.

I can't find the clip yet, but it was aired live on the Training Camp coverage after practise.
 
WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:
bustaheims said:
WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:
Carlyle basically said this wont be a tandem, I'd someone gives them a chance to win, they'll keep the jersey.
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So, basically, it is a tandem them? Whoever is playing best gets the net.
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He brought up that there are teams who are going to basically ride one goalie all the way as kind of an example of what he had planned.

He was directly asked if they where going to split the games like a tandem and he said no, he said that if whoever gets the start Saturday stops the puck then they will run with that person. If not he would give the other a chance and if they do well they keep the job.

I think a lot of times people think of a tandem as two guys who basically get a set number of starts almost no matter what, that's definitely not the plan.

I can't find the clip yet, but it was aired live on the Training Camp coverage after practise.
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Sounds like a tandem to me WIGWAL. 
 
Frank E said:
Sounds like a tandem to me WIGWAL.
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You're probably right, but to me it seemed like he will audition till he finds the starter and then run with him as opposed to a predetermined split of the games, that is what I would consider a tandem.

If one of the guy grabs the reigns out of the gate, it's their gig is what he is saying, that doesn't ring true as a tandem to me.
 
WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:
Frank E said:
Sounds like a tandem to me WIGWAL.
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You're probably right, but to me it seemed like he will audition till he finds the starter and then run with him as opposed to a predetermined split of the games is what I would consider a tandem.

If one of the guy grabs the reigns out of the gate, it's their gig is what he is saying, that doesn't ring true as a tandem to me.
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I guess my thinking is that everyone is penciled in as something on this roster, until they don't perform, then they're not.

They don't have a clear cut #1, so they're each going to get games for now, which sounds exactly like a tandem...until it's not. 
 
The test, though, is how long he'll stick with a guy if he struggles after he's supposedly grabbed the job. I think Carlyle is basically saying something that's universally true. Ideally, he'd like someone to jump up and win the undisputed #1 job. Absent that, though, it's sort of a tandem by default.
 
Nik Pollock said:
The test, though, is how long he'll stick with a guy if he struggles after he's supposedly grabbed the job. I think Carlyle is basically saying something that's universally true. Ideally, he'd like someone to jump up and win the undisputed #1 job. Absent that, though, it's sort of a tandem by default.
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Aren't all tandems by default in NHL regular seasons?

Like if there was a number one, they'd go with him...but there's not, so they don't.
 
Frank E said:
Aren't all tandems by default in NHL regular seasons?

Like if there was a number one, they'd go with him...but there's not, so they don't.
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Not necessarily, although I suppose it depends on what you mean by number one. If you mean a situation where one goalie is clearly better than the other then absent that, I suppose, it would be the default unless a situation arose where a coach simply stuck with one or the other out of stubbornness or favoritism.

If you mean, though, a situation where a goalie is capable of being a good goalie while playing 60+ games a year then the answer is no, because if a team has a second goalie capable of being a #1 then they might choose a tandem over leaning too heavily on either of their very capable goalies. St. Louis last year, for example.
 
I will admit that I haven't seen a single game of Scrivens in the AHL, so I'm going on very little data here, but the games he did play in the NHL last year did not show me any hint of him being an NHL goalie. He was Peter Ing bad out there.
 
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