Here's how you trade Kessel....

[Frank E]

I sense that there's going to be a lot of disappointed fans if the Leafs have little to no deals done at the draft.

You would think they'd (we'd) be used to it by now, but every new trade deadline and draft offers new hope that ultimately ends in the same dissapointment. I'd be surprised if anything 'BIG' gets done on draft day, but I always leave room for a little excitement anyways.

Patience gentlemen.  This is going to be years, not months, and that's if they get it right the first time around.  I too am a little excited about the next week, but I'm willing to appreciate that this is going to take a lot more than just one draft.  There's going to be some mistakes made throughout the process.  This isn't an exact science.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

I sense that there's going to be a lot of disappointed fans if the Leafs have little to no deals done at the draft.

You would think they'd (we'd) be used to it by now, but every new trade deadline and draft offers new hope that ultimately ends in the same dissapointment. I'd be surprised if anything 'BIG' gets done on draft day, but I always leave room for a little excitement anyways.

True, it's always disappointing when the Leafs don't make big moves on draft day like trading Tuukka Rask for Andrew Raycroft.

Be careful what you wish for!

 

[Redleaf]

I sense that there's going to be a lot of disappointed fans if the Leafs have little to no deals done at the draft.

You would think they'd (we'd) be used to it by now, but every new trade deadline and draft offers new hope that ultimately ends in the same dissapointment. I'd be surprised if anything 'BIG' gets done on draft day, but I always leave room for a little excitement anyways.

True, it's always disappointing when the Leafs don't make big moves on draft day like trading Tuukka Rask for Andrew Raycroft.

Be careful what you wish for!

Why so snide? Save the jabs for something other than a casual remark about hoping for a hint of excitement on draft day. :

 

[Highlander]

I share Redleafs optimistic outlook, Obviously the moves Dubas/Hunter are making like the McKegg deal are looking very smart. We know even great hockey minds have made tremendous knucklehead moves and we cannot expect perfection, but I feel pretty confident that they have to move out the rot for picks and let these youngsters gel together under the best tutelage available.

 

[hobarth]

I also am cautiously optimistic but trading Kessel without a huge return better not happen, I'd be much happier if TO got rid of the biggest dud on the team, JVR. During the losing streak I was unaware that JVR was still a Leaf and as much as I've always despised RC, RC was the only person that could get JVR to act like an actual player by going to the front of the opposition's net, when RC was dismissed so was JVR's value. During the losing streak JVR reminded me of Kule, oh not fair, Kule would have done more and also not scored, JVR did less and not score. I don't think JVR has a creative bone in his body and he has absolutely no defensive conscious, what a waste. Kessel made JVR and Bozak look like actual NHL players for years and he's the player that needs to go, bizzarro world I tell you.

I can't imagine how productive Kessel would be with proper line mates but I'm still excited that some how, some way TO might yet actually give him the right players to play with.

 

[rdowdall]

http://www.tsn.ca/sens-stepping-up-trade-efforts-on-netminders-1.314689

Tallon said he?d be willing to trade the pick for a proven goal-scorer with the right offer.?

Hey Dave, have you met Kyle?

 

[skrackle]

http://www.tsn.ca/sens-stepping-up-trade-efforts-on-netminders-1.314689

Tallon said he?d be willing to trade the pick for a proven goal-scorer with the right offer.?

Hey Dave, have you met Kyle?

I think Florida is a possibility for a Kessel trade, but how about Montreal? Montreal is on Kessel's approved list of teams he can be traded to.

The Leafs take the Markov contract off the Habs books. They'll take the Lars Eller contract while they're at it, if they have to. The Habs get Kessel, the scoring element they are badly lacking while they are in their window of contending. If the Habs win a Cup as a result, well hey, good for them.

What do the Leafs get? How about Fucale and the Habs 2015 1st round pick? If Kessel scores a million goals as a Hab against the Leafs, who cares? The Habs window of contending will be closing, just as the Leafs window will be opening.

 

[Kin]

What do the Leafs get? How about Fucale and the Habs 2015 1st round pick? If Kessel scores a million goals as a Hab against the Leafs, who cares? The Habs window of contending will be closing, just as the Leafs window will be opening.

That'd be a pretty disappointing return.

 

[skrackle]

What do the Leafs get? How about Fucale and the Habs 2015 1st round pick? If Kessel scores a million goals as a Hab against the Leafs, who cares? The Habs window of contending will be closing, just as the Leafs window will be opening.

That'd be a pretty disappointing return.

Yes, it would be, but I'm trying not to get my hopes up.

 

[Supernova]

http://www.tsn.ca/sens-stepping-up-trade-efforts-on-netminders-1.314689

Tallon said he?d be willing to trade the pick for a proven goal-scorer with the right offer.?

Hey Dave, have you met Kyle?

I think Florida is a possibility for a Kessel trade, but how about Montreal? Montreal is on Kessel's approved list of teams he can be traded to.

The Leafs take the Markov contract off the Habs books. They'll take the Lars Eller contract while they're at it, if they have to. The Habs get Kessel, the scoring element they are badly lacking while they are in their window of contending. If the Habs win a Cup as a result, well hey, good for them.

What do the Leafs get? How about Fucale and the Habs 2015 1st round pick? If Kessel scores a million goals as a Hab against the Leafs, who cares? The Habs window of contending will be closing, just as the Leafs window will be opening.

Not even close. First, the Leafs won't be trading Kessel to the Habs. Not often do these two clubs deal anyway. Second, the Leafs don't want Kessel sniping them 6 times a year for the next 7 years. Third, if the Leafs were in fact moving Kessel to the Habs, the habs would have to kick in a lot more. Starting with 2 firsts, a good prospect and a young roster player. And I do not want Fucale. I am from the Maritimes and have seen him play far to often. Will end up a career AHL'er

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Diamond Damien Cox says Pens are targeting Kessel as one of 4 or 5 scoring forwards they're looking at.  As many have noted on Twitter, not sure how Pittsburgh would swing that cap-wise without other significant changes.

 

[bustaheims]

Diamond Damien Cox says Pens are targeting Kessel as one of 4 or 5 scoring forwards they're looking at.  As many have noted on Twitter, not sure how Pittsburgh would swing that cap-wise without other significant changes.

The Leafs would obviously have to take back a contract like Kunitz, Perron or Dupuis to make it a possibility. Not sure there's a great deal to be made with the Pens. Their prospect pool is a bit of a mixed bag - a couple intriguing guys, but after that, it's really shallow - and I doubt they'll move someone like Maata to get Kessel.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Something like Kapanen or Pouliot + 1st + 2nd + contract for Kessel? Eh, if Dubas feels that's the best out there I'd probably go for it.

 

[Kin]

Diamond Damien Cox says Pens are targeting Kessel as one of 4 or 5 scoring forwards they're looking at.  As many have noted on Twitter, not sure how Pittsburgh would swing that cap-wise without other significant changes.

The Leafs would obviously have to take back a contract like Kunitz, Perron or Dupuis to make it a possibility. Not sure there's a great deal to be made with the Pens. Their prospect pool is a bit of a mixed bag - a couple intriguing guys, but after that, it's really shallow - and I doubt they'll move someone like Maata to get Kessel.

I was just going to say...for what? A 1st rounder next year and a B grade prospect?

 

[bustaheims]

Something like Kapanen or Pouliot + 1st + 2nd + contract for Kessel? Eh, if Dubas feels that's the best out there I'd probably go for it.

Remember, that 1st rounder would be in 2016. I'd want something more than that to move Kessel, and I'm confident there will be better offers out there.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Remember, that 1st rounder would be in 2016. I'd want something more than that to move Kessel, and I'm confident there will be better offers out there.

Yeah, I know, I'd still probably at least think very hard about it. I don't mind getting started on accumulating picks for next year.

I have a feeling that the Leafs aren't going to want to drag this out too long, and have probably communicated that to their potential trade partners. Dubas should have a fairly good idea as to whether or not a team will be willing to beat something like that.

 

[bustaheims]

Yeah, I know, I'd still probably at least think very hard about it. I don't mind getting started on accumulating picks for next year.

I have a feeling that the Leafs aren't going to want to drag this out too long, and have probably communicated that to their potential trade partners. Dubas should have a fairly good idea as to whether or not a team will be willing to beat something like that.

I suppose. It would be much more palatable if that contract is someone they could easily flip for a good pick or two in this draft. Someone like Perron, maybe. I still think there will be better deals on the table, though.

 

[Chev-boyar-sky]

Yeah, I know, I'd still probably at least think very hard about it. I don't mind getting started on accumulating picks for next year.

I have a feeling that the Leafs aren't going to want to drag this out too long, and have probably communicated that to their potential trade partners. Dubas should have a fairly good idea as to whether or not a team will be willing to beat something like that.

I suppose. It would be much more palatable if that contract is someone they could easily flip for a good pick or two in this draft. Someone like Perron, maybe. I still think there will be better deals on the table, though.

I was wondering if Pitts might go for something like a Kunitz (moveable at the deadline), Sutter (movable at the deadline), 2016 1st and Kapanen/Pouliot.

Maybe it's better to deal him for the end result right away (i.e. not take on Sutter/Kunitz), I don't know.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Hold on to your butts

http://twitter.com/reporterchris/status/614163841040060416

 

[rdowdall]

Hold on to your butts

http://twitter.com/reporterchris/status/614163841040060416

Yes, 1 team called about Phil.  0 for all other players