Ted Cruz is currently in a twitter beef with Ron Perlman.
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CarltonTheBear said:Ted Cruz is currently in a twitter beef with Ron Perlman.
Bates said:I'm not sure the defense of the Altanta guy is warranted, he fell asleep at the wheel while driving drunk. He would be getting arrested here in Canada no matter what Colour he was. And when he hit a Police man and took his taser and tried to use it on him I'm fairly confident his chance at getting shot would be pretty high. He created and escalated the situation.
Nik said:The standard for use of deadly force by the police should be whether or not doing so was the only possible way to prevent loss of someone else's life. I think it's pretty clear that if you're shooting someone in the back, that's no longer the case.
Bullfrog said:Agreed. Letting a person escape should always be preferrable to deadly or sub-fatal violent force unless the person is a severe threat to loss of life.
Running towards a group of children with a fully loaded automatic weapon screaming "death to all children" warrants violent force. Stealing a taser and running away from a drunk/disorderly charge, not so much.
Bullfrog said:I wish I had answers for you. :-\
CarltonTheBear said:So arrest him for disorderly conduct, resisting arrest, and even abuse of an officer or whatever that would be called. None of those things are death sentences.
CarltonTheBear said:Bullfrog said:I wish I had answers for you. :-\
Well I think we both know the answer.
CarltonTheBear said:Bates said:I'm not sure the defense of the Altanta guy is warranted, he fell asleep at the wheel while driving drunk. He would be getting arrested here in Canada no matter what Colour he was. And when he hit a Police man and took his taser and tried to use it on him I'm fairly confident his chance at getting shot would be pretty high. He created and escalated the situation.
So arrest him for disorderly conduct, resisting arrest, and even abuse of an officer or whatever that would be called. None of those things are death sentences.
bustaheims said:B) the cops shouldn't shoot anyone who isn't directly threatening to seriously injure or kill someone else.
Bates said:CarltonTheBear said:Bates said:I'm not sure the defense of the Altanta guy is warranted, he fell asleep at the wheel while driving drunk. He would be getting arrested here in Canada no matter what Colour he was. And when he hit a Police man and took his taser and tried to use it on him I'm fairly confident his chance at getting shot would be pretty high. He created and escalated the situation.
So arrest him for disorderly conduct, resisting arrest, and even abuse of an officer or whatever that would be called. None of those things are death sentences.
When an Officer answered an attack with deadly force i don't see the same case as the Floyd case. You hit an Officer and then shoot a taser at him you have greatly increased the chance that you will be shot. They are not going to allow you to escape when you have shown that action. The chance you return with more firepower won't be happening.