Nik said:
Think that's something that could reasonably happen, particularly the statehood thing? Feels like something that's too good to be true... like expanding the SC and people having healthcare.
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Think that's something that could reasonably happen, particularly the statehood thing? Feels like something that's too good to be true... like expanding the SC and people having healthcare.
Kin
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CarltonTheBear said:
I actually think the popular vote compact is less likely, as it would take flipping some major statehouses/governor's races, but it's still not outside the realm of possibility that the Democrats have both houses of the legislature and the Presidency in two months and that's all you'd need for statehood bills.
Nik said:
Oh yeah I meant that to mean I thought the popular vote compact was fairly unlikely, but I wasn't sure if the statehood thing was actually realistic.
Also while the Dems getting those 2 seats in Georgia is still very important Manchin's comments the other day made me less hopeful that the Senate would push through any very progressive plans. Maybe in 2022.
Kin
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CarltonTheBear said:
Maybe, but I don't think statehood for people who want it is seen as especially progressive in the Democratic party. At least not in the way that single payer healthcare is or defunding the police would be.
But even then, like I was saying with regards to Bernie Sanders and that hypothetical, there's a difference between saying something like that and actually being someone who alienates the entire rest of their party. This is especially true if Manchin ever wants any sort of advancement within the party or earmarks for West Virginia.
Arn
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Possibly going off topic, but kind of linked hopefully. As stated universal healthcare seems to be seen in the US as some kind of communism-lite. What would be the "left" in the US is probably somewhere on the centre/centre right in the UK, I would say. I would badge the Democrats as probably somewhere just a little to the right of where New Labour were under Tony Blair.
I think it would take a loooooooong time to push them any further left, which is why Sanders is good to have in your party to champion those ideals but not as leader.
What way does the Canadian healthcare system work?
In the UK we obviously have universal healthcare that's free for all at point of use and it is absolutely incredible to have access to such a thing, but the current situation is exacerbating the problems of the fact it's been run by the "right" (the Conservatives) who've basically tried to sell parts of it off into private hands. (Very basic explanation).
I think it would take a loooooooong time to push them any further left, which is why Sanders is good to have in your party to champion those ideals but not as leader.
What way does the Canadian healthcare system work?
In the UK we obviously have universal healthcare that's free for all at point of use and it is absolutely incredible to have access to such a thing, but the current situation is exacerbating the problems of the fact it's been run by the "right" (the Conservatives) who've basically tried to sell parts of it off into private hands. (Very basic explanation).
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Bender said:
For one of the nations that was a fairly early adopter of modern democracy, the U.S. has a very undemocratic system in place.
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bustaheims said:
You can have any colour car you like as long as it's black.
princedpw said:
I don't know about "almost certainly". They're not the favourites but could still go either way.
bustaheims
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herman said:
Seems perfectly in line with how Trump has conducted business his entire life.
Kin
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I really don't understand why reporters are letting people be unnamed in these stories. It doesn't really matter why Trump is dragging this out, the fact is that by putting up the facade he is he's hurting the Biden administration's ability to do pretty basic stuff. Like the fact that they're not getting intelligence briefings is ridiculous.
Kin
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Arn said:
I think the primary difference between the Canadian system and the NHS is that while single-payer healthcare is a federal mandate, owing to the separation of powers outlined in Canada's federation, health care is administered by the Provinces. So we don't have a national insurance program but rather a provincial one. So it's regional but there are certain mechanisms in place to try and ensure a continuous level of service regardless of whether you're in a wealthier province or not and all of our provincial plans have reciprocal arrangements to cover us if we're travelling within the country.
On a larger scale it is a public health system with some private services available at the margins and, as of yet, without a national pharmacare plan. Like I think you're experiencing over there there does tend to be a movement by people on the right to allow more for-profit stuff to creep in.
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herman said:
Meanwhile, the country burns as coronavirus rages completely out of control.
If only we only had a real adult in charge, instead of an obese orange toddler. Instead of delaying the transition he could be encouraging his followers to take covid seriously, follow health recommendations, stop the spread and save hospitals from being overwhelmed.
Assuming Biden takes office in Jan, what a mess he will be walking into. No leadership from the top for 2 months during a raging, accelerating pandemic...what could go wrong.
The negative effects of this presidency will echo in this country for generations.