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Idiocracy

So apparently a Capitol Police Officer has died due to the events of yesterday.  This thing just continues to get worse and worse for how incompetently it was handled
 
OldTimeHockey said:
L K said:
The FBI is asking for help identifying the insurrectionists.  If only they had some way of apprehending these people while they were confined in an area.
I think I now understand.  Police are colourblind to white.

I actually felt bad for a good number of the police officers that were first on the scene. Grabbing and arresting IMO would have led to even more issues.
The biggest question I have is why weren't they more prepared?
Some of them opened the gates. I feel for the ones who were there to do an honest job, but enough weren't.
 
OldTimeHockey said:
Highlander said:
Whoever is in charge of Capital security, should be drawn and quartered for allowing a hoard of Ya hoo's to storm the heart of American democracy.  I would have had the army surrounding the building from the start. At the least a lot more National Guard.  This was not necessary even with lunatic Donald calling for a march.

Reports out there that Trump resisted calling in the National Guard
For sure. He loves watching chaos go down for the people who don't show loyalty. We're just lucky he's an idiot mob boss and not particularly competent.

Supposedly Mike Pence had to make arrangements to get the National Guard in gear after Trump resisted. Other States tried to send in their own troops but kept getting denied.
 
https://twitter.com/W7VOA/status/1347332862266257409

The jokes about cops having to fight off-duty cops... apparently weren't jokes.
 
Hey everybody.

I have been rather preoccupied with the disintegration of my country for months on end but I hope to rejoin the Leafs discussion in time for the new season.

I've aged about 8 years in the last 8 weeks.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
https://twitter.com/W7VOA/status/1347332862266257409

The jokes about cops having to fight off-duty cops... apparently weren't jokes.

https://twitter.com/ShawnMcCreesh/status/1347173016116064263
https://twitter.com/JonLemire/status/1347311706196873218
 
herman said:
CarltonTheBear said:
https://twitter.com/W7VOA/status/1347332862266257409

The jokes about cops having to fight off-duty cops... apparently weren't jokes.

https://twitter.com/ShawnMcCreesh/status/1347173016116064263

I'm not ready to throw the cops under the bus on this one. We can't call these people lunatics with alternate senses of reality in one breath and then quote them as factual in the next.
 
OldTimeHockey said:
I'm not ready to throw the cops under the bus on this one. We can't call these people lunatics with alternate senses of reality in one breath and then quote them as factual in the next.

The non-Capitol Hill police on scene were saying this too. FBI, Pentagon were asking CHP if they need resources and reinforcements well in advance of the 6th, only to be turned down until 4 hours after everyone was let in.
 
This isn't really here nor there but because I occasionally want to take people I disagree with on face value...modern day Conservatives know that George Orwell was a socialist who was writing about the rise of Totalitarianism, right? And that he voluntarily chose to fight against right-wing nationalism in a country he wasn't from?

I get that Animal Farm might confuse people because for some reason they've associated Stalin with being left-wing for propaganda purposes and they don't understand how a socialist can still object to aspects of the Soviet Union but I'm trying to take the constant "Orwellian" references as good faith mistakes here.
 
Rioter allegedly died of a heart attack after tasing himself in the nuts:

https://twitter.com/SweetJohnny1960/status/1347595719163736068

Rioter with "Don't tread on me" flag allegedly trampled to death:

https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1347625423035895811
 
I'm trying to think of something more ironic than being trampled to death at a political riot while yielding a  "Don't tread on me" flag....maybe marching at a rally in Philadelphia with a "Give me liberty or give me death" sign and getting impaled by the liberty bell?
 
herman said:
OldTimeHockey said:
I'm not ready to throw the cops under the bus on this one. We can't call these people lunatics with alternate senses of reality in one breath and then quote them as factual in the next.

The non-Capitol Hill police on scene were saying this too. FBI, Pentagon were asking CHP if they need resources and reinforcements well in advance of the 6th, only to be turned down until 4 hours after everyone was let in.

My mind just continues to be boggled by the lack of preparedness.
 
OldTimeHockey said:
herman said:
OldTimeHockey said:
I'm not ready to throw the cops under the bus on this one. We can't call these people lunatics with alternate senses of reality in one breath and then quote them as factual in the next.

The non-Capitol Hill police on scene were saying this too. FBI, Pentagon were asking CHP if they need resources and reinforcements well in advance of the 6th, only to be turned down until 4 hours after everyone was let in.

My mind just continues to be boggled by the lack of preparedness.
Agreed totally, I saw the security chief for the Capital on TV last night and he seemed like a real simple man with no idea of a plan, hell I would have had either the Army or National Guard out in force surrounding the grounds. 
I asked my wife, what if some Terrorists of the ISIS kind had embedded themselves in the mob with real explosives on them.  Imagine the devastation to life and property could have been wreaked.  It was bad enough as it was.
I would like Trump to surrender the "Football" if he hasn't already been forced to do so.
 
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OldTimeHockey said:
herman said:
OldTimeHockey said:
I'm not ready to throw the cops under the bus on this one. We can't call these people lunatics with alternate senses of reality in one breath and then quote them as factual in the next.

The non-Capitol Hill police on scene were saying this too. FBI, Pentagon were asking CHP if they need resources and reinforcements well in advance of the 6th, only to be turned down until 4 hours after everyone was let in.

My mind just continues to be boggled by the lack of preparedness.

It was deliberate from the top of their chain of command.
 
I just heard a statement about the Capitol policeman who was killed in the riot and one of the details they mentioned about him is that he was a huge Devils fan and I have to say that hit me pretty hard. What a terrible useless tragedy that could have been avoided in so many ways.
 
Google banned the Parler app and Apple issued a warning they may remove it as well. The nuts are trying to organize another attack on Jan 19th before the Biden inauguration
 

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