Idiocracy
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Guilt Trip
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Not worth much..lolNik said:
OldTimeHockey
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herman said:
That's fine and all. But, it's still a large amount of Albertans out of work.
Guilt Trip
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Haha, that's good and yes Les Mis is the best.princedpw said:
Kin
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OldTimeHockey said:
I don't think anyone is denying that. But it's about who is a productive target for the fallout from that, the Premier who should have seen this coming or the elected official in another country who ran on this promise. Biden isn't worried about whether or not he can pick up Alberta's electoral votes.
Highlander
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The U.S. despite all the claims of moving away from fossil fuels will still be highly oil dependant for the next 20-30 years. Yes the Keystone was going to be great for Alberta, but it was also going to provide a huge number of good paying jobs (over 40K) in the U.S for next 5-10 years.Nik said:
Perhaps we have forgotten the entire Canadian economy is tied to our oil riches.
I do endorse the move away from fossil fuels as soon as possible but we are talking about a long runway.
Keystone XL wouldn't be built overnight. I do think if oil gets transported regardless then it might be a good idea to do that vs rail but with the way prices are coming down for renewables I wouldn't be shocked if oil demand gets depressed to a point that make oils sands oil not cost effective enough to extract in the first place.Highlander said:
Phileas Fogg
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Personal politics aside, it needs to be recognized that the pipeline was a bipartisan effort involving the liberal prime minister as a backer, so leaving that convenient detail out and focusing on the western premiers as the ones that got theirs seems a bit disingenuous.
Kin
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Frycer14 said:
I think that's being focused on because the Prime Minister, who I have no partisan interest in protecting, is not the one loudly wailing over this decision made by a recently elected head of government in another country that we crucially need good relations with.
Kin
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Highlander said:
Can't forget something that isn't true.
The US State Department's report on Keystone was that once construction was finished, and nobody who advocated for it suggested that would take anything like 5-10 years, there would likely only be a few dozen permanent jobs created by it.
OldTimeHockey
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Nik said:
Well, Trudeau is at least feigning disappointment over Biden's decision:
https://globalnews.ca/news/7594940/trudeau-biden-chat-keystone-disappointment/
Phileas Fogg
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Bender said:
2nded. There's a visceral negativity just in seeing the name.
Highlander
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The Donald still lives and Orange Man is not finished yet, more shenanigans to come. Trials, new political party, new News channel. Or more room to fall.
Guilt Trip
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Fire it into the moon!Bender said:
Kin
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OldTimeHockey said:
Seems sort of odd to suggest it's insincere disappointment considering he ran on supporting the pipeline and doing so probably cost him with voters on the left. He wanted it built, it won't be and so he's disappointed. He's not, however, enough of a lunatic to think this one project of questionable value is worth starting a trade dispute with our biggest partner over.