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Idiocracy

Nik said:
OldTimeHockey said:
Well, Trudeau is at least feigning disappointment over Biden's decision:

https://globalnews.ca/news/7594940/trudeau-biden-chat-keystone-disappointment/

Seems sort of odd to suggest it's insincere disappointment considering he ran on supporting the pipeline and doing so probably cost him with voters on the left. He wanted it built, it won't be and so he's disappointed. He's not, however, enough of a lunatic to think this one project of questionable value is worth starting a trade dispute with our biggest partner over.

My only point is it's not just the Premier of Alberta that sees losing the pipeline as a big deal. People can question Alberta putting all their eggs in the oil handbasket. I'm just not sure what other hand basket they should be putting it in considering it's the industry that has propped up the province's economy. Heck, it did a pretty good job of propping up the country's economy as well.
 
OldTimeHockey said:
My only point is it's not just the Premier of Alberta that sees losing the pipeline as a big deal.

Well, no, the premier of Saskatchewan was also supposedly yelling at Trudeau about it but either way I don't see what the criticism of Trudeau is. He wanted it to happen, a position I think that reflects him wanting to try to rebuild his party on the prairies more than what he actually thinks is good environmental/economic policy, but he's not going to ruin the much larger Canada/US trade policy over it. He's comporting himself appropriately given the situation.

OldTimeHockey said:
People can question Alberta putting all their eggs in the oil handbasket. I'm just not sure what other hand basket they should be putting it in considering it's the industry that has propped up the province's economy. Heck, it did a pretty good job of propping up the country's economy as well.

I think the point being made is that it's not really a choice at this point. The world is moving away from fossil fuels. That has very strong support, especially among younger voters. It's not going away and is almost certainly only going to get stronger in the years to come. Alberta can either start that process, as painful as it may be, and get the jump on pivoting to something else or it's going to happen to them. The price of oil is almost certainly never going to be what it was in boom times.

Heck, even the Saudis understand this to the point that they're going to be spending hundreds of billions of dollars trying to build animatronic dinosaur theme parks and fancy hotels in the middle of the desert to bring in tourist dollars so that their economy doesn't disintegrate over the coming years.

I appreciate that there's a lot of deep division in our country and call me a unrealistic optimist if you must but I firmly have faith in my fellow countrymen and think that Albertans can, if they put their mind to it, be as forward thinking and open to change as Saudi Arabia.
 
Nik said:
OldTimeHockey said:
My only point is it's not just the Premier of Alberta that sees losing the pipeline as a big deal.

Well, no, the premier of Saskatchewan was also supposedly yelling at Trudeau about it but either way I don't see what the criticism of Trudeau is. He wanted it to happen, a position I think that reflects him wanting to try to rebuild his party on the prairies more than what he actually thinks is good environmental/economic policy, but he's not going to ruin the much larger Canada/US trade policy over it. He's comporting himself appropriately given the situation.

OldTimeHockey said:
People can question Alberta putting all their eggs in the oil handbasket. I'm just not sure what other hand basket they should be putting it in considering it's the industry that has propped up the province's economy. Heck, it did a pretty good job of propping up the country's economy as well.

I think the point being made is that it's not really a choice at this point. The world is moving away from fossil fuels. That has very strong support, especially among younger voters. It's not going away and is almost certainly only going to get stronger in the years to come. Alberta can either start that process, as painful as it may be, and get the jump on pivoting to something else or it's going to happen to them. The price of oil is almost certainly never going to be what it was in boom times.

Heck, even the Saudis understand this to the point that they're going to be spending hundreds of billions of dollars trying to build animatronic dinosaur theme parks and fancy hotels in the middle of the desert to bring in tourist dollars so that their economy doesn't disintegrate over the coming years.

I appreciate that there's a lot of deep division in our country and call me a unrealistic optimist if you must but I firmly have faith in my fellow countrymen and think that Albertans can, if they put their mind to it, be as forward thinking and open to change as Saudi Arabia.

Hey man, I only commented that the news was bad for Alberta. I realize that fossil fuels need to be moved away from.
 
Nik said:
OldTimeHockey said:
Hey man, I only commented that the news was bad for Alberta.

I mean, I was literally quoting other comments you made but sure thing fam.

That's because explaining crap to you is pointless. You're always going to make it take on a life of it's own. As I've said before. You're right Nik.
 
OldTimeHockey said:
That's because explaining crap to you is pointless. You're always going to make it take on a life of it's own. As I've said before. You're right Nik.

Not to worry. In the future I will try not to...directly respond to specific things you said.
 
OldTimeHockey said:
Nik said:
OldTimeHockey said:
Hey man, I only commented that the news was bad for Alberta.

I mean, I was literally quoting other comments you made but sure thing fam.

That's because explaining crap to you is pointless. You're always going to make it take on a life of it's own. As I've said before. You're right Nik.

Pointless? You stated what you think, and Nik disagreed so he posted his thoughts. That is literally the point of a discussion board.
 
Deebo said:
OldTimeHockey said:
Nik said:
OldTimeHockey said:
Hey man, I only commented that the news was bad for Alberta.

I mean, I was literally quoting other comments you made but sure thing fam.

That's because explaining crap to you is pointless. You're always going to make it take on a life of it's own. As I've said before. You're right Nik.

Pointless? You stated what you think, and Nik disagreed so he posted his thoughts. That is literally the point of a discussion board.

You're also correct.
 
Nik said:
OldTimeHockey said:
My only point is it's not just the Premier of Alberta that sees losing the pipeline as a big deal.

Well, no, the premier of Saskatchewan was also supposedly yelling at Trudeau about it but either way I don't see what the criticism of Trudeau is. He wanted it to happen, a position I think that reflects him wanting to try to rebuild his party on the prairies more than what he actually thinks is good environmental/economic policy, but he's not going to ruin the much larger Canada/US trade policy over it. He's comporting himself appropriately given the situation.

OldTimeHockey said:
People can question Alberta putting all their eggs in the oil handbasket. I'm just not sure what other hand basket they should be putting it in considering it's the industry that has propped up the province's economy. Heck, it did a pretty good job of propping up the country's economy as well.

I think the point being made is that it's not really a choice at this point. The world is moving away from fossil fuels. That has very strong support, especially among younger voters. It's not going away and is almost certainly only going to get stronger in the years to come. Alberta can either start that process, as painful as it may be, and get the jump on pivoting to something else or it's going to happen to them. The price of oil is almost certainly never going to be what it was in boom times.

Heck, even the Saudis understand this to the point that they're going to be spending hundreds of billions of dollars trying to build animatronic dinosaur theme parks and fancy hotels in the middle of the desert to bring in tourist dollars so that their economy doesn't disintegrate over the coming years.

I appreciate that there's a lot of deep division in our country and call me a unrealistic optimist if you must but I firmly have faith in my fellow countrymen and think that Albertans can, if they put their mind to it, be as forward thinking and open to change as Saudi Arabia.
But they already have a dinosaur theme park
 
OldTimeHockey said:
Deebo said:
OldTimeHockey said:
Nik said:
OldTimeHockey said:
Hey man, I only commented that the news was bad for Alberta.

I mean, I was literally quoting other comments you made but sure thing fam.

That's because explaining crap to you is pointless. You're always going to make it take on a life of it's own. As I've said before. You're right Nik.

Pointless? You stated what you think, and Nik disagreed so he posted his thoughts. That is literally the point of a discussion board.

You're also correct.
Agreed.
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2021/01/16/video-timeline-capitol-siege/?arc404=true

A video timeline including 3D reproduction of the siege.
 
https://twitter.com/theangiestanton/status/1356098891373019136

So this woman is nuts. It's like watching a trainwreck, I couldn't look away.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
https://twitter.com/JasonSCampbell/status/1356719881564086272

Art.

Trumpism distilled into a 2 minute clip. Talking over people, ignoring facts, continually pushing completely debunked garbage, completely ignoring the actual questions and going off on unrelated tangents to spread conspiracy theories . . . it's perfect.
 

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