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John Scott traded to MTL for Jarred Tinordi

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Gary Bettman is a monster.
 
Also love all the comments from media and fans (especially from media) that this was all the voters fault and Scott should direct his anger toward them.
 
Nik the Trik said:
https://twitter.com/NicholsOnHockey/status/688120929075867648

This freaking League.
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He didn't necessarily need to be included in the trade to get him out of the game. The Coyotes had already sent him to the AHL. If they left him there, he wouldn't have been eligible. So, as much as I like a good conspiracy theory . . .
 
bustaheims said:
He didn't necessarily need to be included in the trade to get him out of the game. The Coyotes had already sent him to the AHL. If they left him there, he wouldn't have been eligible. So, as much as I like a good conspiracy theory . . .
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It's been reported that Arizona wanted Scott involved in the deal, not Montreal. They could have waived him yeah, but he's on a one-way deal and they didn't want to pay him a NHL salary in the AHL.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
It's been reported that Arizona wanted Scott involved in the deal, not Montreal. They could have waived him yeah, but he's on a one-way deal and they didn't want to pay him a NHL salary in the AHL.
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I buy that they didn't want to pay him as the reason he was included in deal much more than the league not wanting him in the All Star Game. They basically took advantage of the situation to dump some salary.
 
bustaheims said:
He didn't necessarily need to be included in the trade to get him out of the game. The Coyotes had already sent him to the AHL. If they left him there, he wouldn't have been eligible. So, as much as I like a good conspiracy theory . . .
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Sure, but the Coyotes leave him in the AHL and they're the jerks who are essentially choosing not to let Scott go to the game. They trade him and nobody is a jerk because he can't very well represent a team he doesn't play for.
 
Nik the Trik said:
bustaheims said:
He didn't necessarily need to be included in the trade to get him out of the game. The Coyotes had already sent him to the AHL. If they left him there, he wouldn't have been eligible. So, as much as I like a good conspiracy theory . . .
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Sure, but the Coyotes leave him in the AHL and they're the jerks who are essentially choosing not to let Scott go to the game. They trade him and nobody is a jerk because he can't very well represent a team he doesn't play for.
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Bottom line Arizona was the organization that gave John Scott a 1-way contract in the first place. That is still the biggest crime that happened in this whole scenario.
 
I know CtB is being facetious but doesn't the above prove the point? It wasn't idiots on the internets being jerks. It was about having some fun with an inherently meaningless event.

 
I don't know why NHL is still getting heat for this.  Friedman in one of his last articles said his research indicated the NHL wanted Maloney to wait to make the deal until after the ASG.
 
Potvin29 said:
I don't know why NHL is still getting heat for this.  Friedman in one of his last articles said his research indicated the NHL wanted Maloney to wait to make the deal until after the ASG.
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This article: http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/coyotes-gm-considered-waiting-on-scott-trade-until-after-all-star-game/ ?

It only says that Maloney considered waiting until after the ASG, not that the NHL wanted him to.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Potvin29 said:
I don't know why NHL is still getting heat for this.  Friedman in one of his last articles said his research indicated the NHL wanted Maloney to wait to make the deal until after the ASG.
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This article: http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/coyotes-gm-considered-waiting-on-scott-trade-until-after-all-star-game/ ?

It only says that Maloney considered waiting until after the ASG, not that the NHL wanted him to.
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No this one:

Maloney admitted he considered waiting three more weeks to make the Jarred Tinordi deal, and, after two more days of research, my belief is that?s what the NHL wished he would have done.

But they couldn?t force him not to act.
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http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/30-thoughts-its-time-to-move-on-from-the-john-scott-saga/
 
Potvin29 said:
No this one:

Maloney admitted he considered waiting three more weeks to make the Jarred Tinordi deal, and, after two more days of research, my belief is that?s what the NHL wished he would have done.

But they couldn?t force him not to act.
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http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/30-thoughts-its-time-to-move-on-from-the-john-scott-saga/
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Oh, sorry, to me you (unintentionally I'm sure) made it seem that like that was days old information when it was just published an hour ago.

Anyway, I think you can understand that anybody who thought the league played any role in this wouldn't exactly 100% trust Elliotte's source on that considering it's likely people from the league.
 
Potvin29 said:
I don't know why NHL is still getting heat for this.  Friedman in one of his last articles said his research indicated the NHL wanted Maloney to wait to make the deal until after the ASG.
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Actually, what he said is that after research it was "his belief" that's what the NHL wanted. That's not the most definitive statement either way.
 
It's as definitive (and I'd say much more so since I think Friedman's word holds a lot of weight) as anyone else who has assumed the NHL stepped in and did something.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Potvin29 said:
No this one:

Maloney admitted he considered waiting three more weeks to make the Jarred Tinordi deal, and, after two more days of research, my belief is that?s what the NHL wished he would have done.

But they couldn?t force him not to act.
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http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/30-thoughts-its-time-to-move-on-from-the-john-scott-saga/
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Oh, sorry, to me you (unintentionally I'm sure) made it seem that like that was days old information when it was just published an hour ago.

Anyway, I think you can understand that anybody who thought the league played any role in this wouldn't exactly 100% trust Elliotte's source on that considering it's likely people from the league.
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Then to me it's no different from any conspiracy theory - no matter what is said there will be a way to twist it to mean what you or any other person wants it to mean.  Anybody who thought the league played any role is not likely to be swayed by anything that comes out now.  John Scott can't melt steel beams.
 
Potvin29 said:
It's as definitive (and I'd say much more so since I think Friedman's word holds a lot of weight) as anyone else who has assumed the NHL stepped in and did something.
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The other side of this argument though really didn't get going until Bob McKenzie said he believed the Yotes were doing the NHL a solid here. His word holds a lot of weight too.
 
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