GhostofPotvin29
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Wonder if there were also some issues with Tinordi he doesn't want to get into publicly.
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Potvin29 said:Wonder if there were also some issues with Tinordi he doesn't want to get into publicly.
CarltonTheBear said:Potvin29 said:Wonder if there were also some issues with Tinordi he doesn't want to get into publicly.
Maybe. He could also just be referring to the fact that he didn't want to bring Arizona's financial issues to the forefront if that played a part. I just don't get why he didn't have a generic answer planned that didn't have the shifty-eye treatment to it.
"Tinordi wasn't working out on our team and we didn't think he would make it through waivers. With this trade we acquired two players with NHL experience who also give us flexibility in that they can both go to our AHL affiliate until a need for them arises on the NHL roster."
I came up with that in 10 seconds, and I avoided pouring a bunch of gasoline on a fire that was almost out.
CarltonTheBear said:[tweet]690227223421415424[/tweet]
Be less weird about this, Bergevin.
L K said:To be fair he has constructed a top level team in Montreal. He can afford to be vague for no reason.
Renaud Lavoie @renlavoietva
John Scott will wear a black jersey with the logo of the All-star game for the skills competition next week and not a team jersey.
CarltonTheBear said:Renaud Lavoie @renlavoietva
John Scott will wear a black jersey with the logo of the All-star game for the skills competition next week and not a team jersey.
What? He's a Hab, let him wear a Canadiens jersey.
bustaheims said:Officially, he's a Bulldog . . . and I think it would be great if he wore his AHL jersey for the skills competition.
CarltonTheBear said:[tweet]690227223421415424[/tweet]
Be less weird about this, Bergevin.
Nik the Trik said:https://twitter.com/NHL/status/690263345753120771
Remember kids, John Scott being involved is making a mockery of the sacred tradition of a three on three one period tournament coached by Country and Western singers.
Heroic Shrimp said:CarltonTheBear said:[tweet]690227223421415424[/tweet]
Be less weird about this, Bergevin.
As unnecessarily controversial a statement as that obviously is, and as much as it obviously invites more attention to John Scott, is there a chance that that statement has more to do with Tinordi than Scott? I've heard his dad isn't an ideal parent for a manager to deal with.
Heroic Shrimp said:On 590 this morning, Elliotte Friedman spoke at length that in the context of the question that led to that quote, he's pretty convinced that he was speaking about Tinordi and the need to move him out. He was pretty insightful about how both Arizona and the NHL approached the trade:
- that Arizona wanted Tinordi
- that there wasn't any other player on their roster that made a salary fit in the trade for Montreal
- that the NHL wanted Arizona to wait until after the all-star game to complete the trade, that Arizona didn't want to risk the trade falling apart by waiting
- that the NHL was upset that Arizona didn't wait on the trade and wouldn't allow them a replacement player to go to the all-star game.
L K said:"Celebrity". I guess the winner of The Bachelor season 14 wasn't available?
Nik the Trik said:Heroic Shrimp said:On 590 this morning, Elliotte Friedman spoke at length that in the context of the question that led to that quote, he's pretty convinced that he was speaking about Tinordi and the need to move him out. He was pretty insightful about how both Arizona and the NHL approached the trade:
- that Arizona wanted Tinordi
- that there wasn't any other player on their roster that made a salary fit in the trade for Montreal
- that the NHL wanted Arizona to wait until after the all-star game to complete the trade, that Arizona didn't want to risk the trade falling apart by waiting
- that the NHL was upset that Arizona didn't wait on the trade and wouldn't allow them a replacement player to go to the all-star game.
I don't entirely get it. Is the context that there were these unknown sinister forces that forced the Habs to make this trade out of a desire to rid themselves of Tinordi or is it that Arizona really wanted Tinordi? Because you'd think that those two things are, to some extent although not entirely, in conflict.
Also, if the first two points there are true then it seems like a relatively easy trade for Bergevin to explain.
Heroic Shrimp said:And I don't know what you mean by unknown sinister forces, but would say that Friedman believed it was a "real" hockey trade in which Scott was thrown in to make things balance out best for both sides in terms of salary.
Nik the Trik said:Heroic Shrimp said:And I don't know what you mean by unknown sinister forces, but would say that Friedman believed it was a "real" hockey trade in which Scott was thrown in to make things balance out best for both sides in terms of salary.
I suppose I'm referring to the suggestion earlier in the thread that Tinordi's family is tough to deal with or unspecified things to that effect.