Kadri v.s. Holland

[losveratos]

I think that given the history and context of Kadri and the Leafs - the up and downs (literally) of his first few years, Dallas Eakins body fat public announcements, etc. - it really should not come as a surprise that Kadri may be dealt.  I think management has had an issue with him basically from the start.

It's difficult to really say but they've kept him through all that, perhaps they're just continuing to try to mold him? He's a great talent with a lot of grit, it'd be a shame to lose his potential and I think they know that.

I think it is them trying to mold him, rather than not wanting him from the start.

But of all the things that the organization has said about him, you would think he's the most maligned player out there. That kind of stuff doesn't come from nowhere, and leads me to suspect that there has been some out of sight issues that have gone in with him.

But really, he just seems like the kind of guy who needs a kick in the butt every once in a while. Some people need that "tough love" kind of discipline.

Well he is a friend to complacency.

 

[TML fan]

Leafs head coach Randy Carlyle?s system in the defensive zone, Fraser says, is almost a replica of the one he learned in his rookie year under legendary coach Jacques Lemaire. source: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/leafs-beat/maple-leafs-defensive-scheme-devilish-in-design/article8652308/

Perhaps Kadri is not fitting the system the team is looking for.  People are saying Kadri has greater offense.  So did Grabovski.  You play the new system or you're out.  Grabs said he was played 'wrong' basicly.  And he's right, and in the end he ended up not being the right player for the right system.  Thinking Kadri might be a square peg in a round hole.

Yeah, I mean if we want a team full of players who just chip the puck off the glass, Kadri is definitely not a fit.

 

[pmrules]

Jonas Siegel ‏@jonasTSN1050 3h
Carlyle said Kadri needs to take another step. "We feel if Peter Holland continues to play he?s going to challenge [Kadri] for that spot."

Jonas Siegel ‏@jonasTSN1050 3h
Randy Carlyle feels line of Lupul, Raymond and Kadri has to improve. "In my mind they?re playing to a fraction of where they really can be."

If this is Carlyle's "rant" according to kypreos...it's not much of a rant.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

Yeah, I mean if we want a team full of players who just chip the puck off the glass, Kadri is definitely not a fit.

I don't think they want to be an unimaginative player that just plays dump and chase hockey. What most do want is a Kadri that KNOWS when to chip it off the boards and in deep instead of always looking for a dipsy doodle play and making soft passes trying to be pretty.

 

[TML fan]

Yeah, I mean if we want a team full of players who just chip the puck off the glass, Kadri is definitely not a fit.

I don't think they want to be an unimaginative player that just plays dump and chase hockey. What most do want is a Kadri that KNOWS when to chip it off the boards and in deep instead of always looking for a dipsy doodle play and making soft passes trying to be pretty.

I think Kadri knows the difference, and is just fed up with having the puck and being asked to voluntarily turn it over so the team can defend for 2 and a half periods. He's trying to make things happen. Yeah he turns it over. Big deal? Dumping it in and barely trying to get it back, or having it poked off your stick? Either way, you don't have the puck.

 

[Highlander]

I think we all know that Kadri is a carrott and stick kind of player. Holland to be honest has shown a tremendous upside, wow a large centre with good hands, so put Holland on the 2nd line and put Amazin Nazim on the 3rd and let him work his way up again. Thats what seems to work with him.

 

[Corn Flake]

Leafs head coach Randy Carlyle?s system in the defensive zone, Fraser says, is almost a replica of the one he learned in his rookie year under legendary coach Jacques Lemaire. source: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/leafs-beat/maple-leafs-defensive-scheme-devilish-in-design/article8652308/

Perhaps Kadri is not fitting the system the team is looking for.  People are saying Kadri has greater offense.  So did Grabovski.  You play the new system or you're out.  Grabs said he was played 'wrong' basicly.  And he's right, and in the end he ended up not being the right player for the right system.  Thinking Kadri might be a square peg in a round hole.

I don't think Kadri's issues are really in the defensive zone.  He's doing the right things there overall, with the odd gaffe here or there. 

Where he is having issues is in the other two zones. He has been reverting back to some of his earlier problems with making decisions with the puck in the neutral zone, trying to skate through 3 defenders, making weak passes or  getting stripped of the puck too easily, mostly due to over-handling, etc.

He's certainly not been the only one over the last while. Kessel until 2 games ago was doing many of the same things.

 

[moon111]

Yeah, I mean if we want a team full of players who just chip the puck off the glass, Kadri is definitely not a fit.

I don't think they want to be an unimaginative player that just plays dump and chase hockey. What most do want is a Kadri that KNOWS when to chip it off the boards and in deep instead of always looking for a dipsy doodle play and making soft passes trying to be pretty.

I think Kadri knows the difference, and is just fed up with having the puck and being asked to voluntarily turn it over so the team can defend for 2 and a half periods. He's trying to make things happen. Yeah he turns it over. Big deal? Dumping it in and barely trying to get it back, or having it poked off your stick? Either way, you don't have the puck.

Far as I'm concerned, if they dump it in, they should fight like hell to get the puck back and generate a play.  Unless that player is smaller then Darcy Tucker (Spencer Abbott you're excused), I don't see any excuse.  Too many players with unbroken eggs in their back pockets.