bustaheims
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freer said:No he was not. At 1 mil a season, he was 10 x better then Franson defensively.
Being on a cheaper contract does not improve his defensive play.
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freer said:No he was not. At 1 mil a season, he was 10 x better then Franson defensively.
bustaheims said:freer said:No he was not. At 1 mil a season, he was 10 x better then Franson defensively.
Being on a cheaper contract does not improve his defensive play.
Bender said:I'd argue that Ranger never looked better than Franson in almost any facet of the game. I also think Franson would be a more valuable trading chip than Ranger just for the fact that he's three years younger.
bustaheims said:Bender said:I'd argue that Ranger never looked better than Franson in almost any facet of the game. I also think Franson would be a more valuable trading chip than Ranger just for the fact that he's three years younger.
Ranger's a better skater than Franson - though, really, that's not saying much. As the season went on, he made less mistakes, but he also saw less ice time, so, it probably balances out. In terms of a 3rd pairing guy, I think I'd rather have Ranger - he doesn't help the team as much as Franson offensively, but he doesn't hurt them as much defensively. He'd also be on a much cheaper contract. Franson probably would be a more valuable trade chip, but he's also going to be a much larger cap commitment, so, that also balances things out some - though, right now, Ranger's trade value is non-existent, as he's an unsigned UFA.
freer said:bustaheims said:Bender said:I'd argue that Ranger never looked better than Franson in almost any facet of the game. I also think Franson would be a more valuable trading chip than Ranger just for the fact that he's three years younger.
Ranger's a better skater than Franson - though, really, that's not saying much. As the season went on, he made less mistakes, but he also saw less ice time, so, it probably balances out. In terms of a 3rd pairing guy, I think I'd rather have Ranger - he doesn't help the team as much as Franson offensively, but he doesn't hurt them as much defensively. He'd also be on a much cheaper contract. Franson probably would be a more valuable trade chip, but he's also going to be a much larger cap commitment, so, that also balances things out some - though, right now, Ranger's trade value is non-existent, as he's an unsigned UFA.
IMO, Franson is the reason we lost to BOS in playoffs, He was the one who sent a blind pass right up the mid leading to the tieing goal. again IMO
Potvin29 said:freer said:bustaheims said:Bender said:I'd argue that Ranger never looked better than Franson in almost any facet of the game. I also think Franson would be a more valuable trading chip than Ranger just for the fact that he's three years younger.
Ranger's a better skater than Franson - though, really, that's not saying much. As the season went on, he made less mistakes, but he also saw less ice time, so, it probably balances out. In terms of a 3rd pairing guy, I think I'd rather have Ranger - he doesn't help the team as much as Franson offensively, but he doesn't hurt them as much defensively. He'd also be on a much cheaper contract. Franson probably would be a more valuable trade chip, but he's also going to be a much larger cap commitment, so, that also balances things out some - though, right now, Ranger's trade value is non-existent, as he's an unsigned UFA.
IMO, Franson is the reason we lost to BOS in playoffs, He was the one who sent a blind pass right up the mid leading to the tieing goal. again IMO
Must have been quite the feat from the bench.
freer said:Potvin29 said:freer said:bustaheims said:Bender said:I'd argue that Ranger never looked better than Franson in almost any facet of the game. I also think Franson would be a more valuable trading chip than Ranger just for the fact that he's three years younger.
Ranger's a better skater than Franson - though, really, that's not saying much. As the season went on, he made less mistakes, but he also saw less ice time, so, it probably balances out. In terms of a 3rd pairing guy, I think I'd rather have Ranger - he doesn't help the team as much as Franson offensively, but he doesn't hurt them as much defensively. He'd also be on a much cheaper contract. Franson probably would be a more valuable trade chip, but he's also going to be a much larger cap commitment, so, that also balances things out some - though, right now, Ranger's trade value is non-existent, as he's an unsigned UFA.
IMO, Franson is the reason we lost to BOS in playoffs, He was the one who sent a blind pass right up the mid leading to the tieing goal. again IMO
Must have been quite the feat from the bench.
I am sorry I was mistaken. It was winning goal in OT.
Nik the Trik said:Regardless, there is no one reason why the team lost.
CarltonTheBear said:Nik the Trik said:Regardless, there is no one reason why the team lost.
Yeah, everybody knows that there were two: Grabovski and Reimer.
Nik the Trik said:I don't think he'll be unsigned when camp rolls around but if he is, Dany Heatley is someone I'd look at on a try-out basis.
CarltonTheBear said:Nik the Trik said:Regardless, there is no one reason why the team lost.
Yeah, everybody knows that there were two: Grabovski and Reimer.
Potvin29 said:freer said:Potvin29 said:freer said:bustaheims said:Bender said:I'd argue that Ranger never looked better than Franson in almost any facet of the game. I also think Franson would be a more valuable trading chip than Ranger just for the fact that he's three years younger.
Ranger's a better skater than Franson - though, really, that's not saying much. As the season went on, he made less mistakes, but he also saw less ice time, so, it probably balances out. In terms of a 3rd pairing guy, I think I'd rather have Ranger - he doesn't help the team as much as Franson offensively, but he doesn't hurt them as much defensively. He'd also be on a much cheaper contract. Franson probably would be a more valuable trade chip, but he's also going to be a much larger cap commitment, so, that also balances things out some - though, right now, Ranger's trade value is non-existent, as he's an unsigned UFA.
IMO, Franson is the reason we lost to BOS in playoffs, He was the one who sent a blind pass right up the mid leading to the tieing goal. again IMO
Must have been quite the feat from the bench.
I am sorry I was mistaken. It was winning goal in OT.
I don't really blame him on that one, although I've blocked it out of my memory. I thought maybe you were referring to the first goal of the game. Anyways..
freer said:IMO, Franson is the reason we lost to BOS in playoffs, He was the one who sent a blind pass right up the mid leading to the tieing goal. again IMO
You're right, but a timeout could have made a world of difference.bustaheims said:freer said:IMO, Franson is the reason we lost to BOS in playoffs, He was the one who sent a blind pass right up the mid leading to the tieing goal. again IMO
There was no single play that cost the Leafs the series. There was one that ended it, but, that's it. You don't blow a 4-1 lead in 10 minutes because of one play.
Lee-bo said:You're right, but a timeout could have made a world of difference.
bustaheims said:Lee-bo said:You're right, but a timeout could have made a world of difference.
It might have. It might not have. I agree that Carlyle should have used it after the Bruins made it 4-3, because, well, what was the point in saving it?
Potvin29 said:Worth noting though that the Bruins took a timeout at that point.