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Leafs 2013/2014 Schedule in 10 game chunks

bustaheims said:
RedLeaf said:
Who's to say Bernier was hampered by his current injury prior to the LA game? In fact it was reported he was.
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And, for what it's worth, there's plenty of speculation that the injury is worse than the team is letting on, so, I wouldn't expect him back any time soon, and, if/when he does make it back, I would expect him to look less than fantastic for a couple games.
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I agree with this. He may not be back anytime soon. If that's the case......season goes 'poof'

Although....

Jonathan Bernier looks pretty good here during the optional practice. An update to come. #leafs
 
RedLeaf said:
I agree with this. He may not be back anytime soon. If that's the case......season goes 'poof'
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It's likely gone that way already, and, it's probably for the best. There are seriously flaw with this team and every level of the organization, every piece of the roster and coaching staff need to have a serious look taken at them. Making the playoffs would have saved a few individuals that need to be let go if this team is going to move forward.
 
bustaheims said:
RedLeaf said:
I agree with this. He may not be back anytime soon. If that's the case......season goes 'poof'
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It's likely gone that way already, and, it's probably for the best. There are seriously flaw with this team and every level of the organization, every piece of the roster and coaching staff need to have a serious look taken at them. Making the playoffs would have saved a few individuals that need to be let go if this team is going to move forward.
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I could see a few changes, but seriously...Nonis isn't going to have a fire sale here. Not a chance. And, without trading some future pieces, he's not going to get any real upgrades to the core of this team in one summer.

Carlyle probably gets replaced...but with whom?

Franson and Reimer get dealt, but what is out there that will improve this club without sacrificing a piece of the future?

And let's be realistic, what players do the Leafs have, besides a few untouchables like Reilly and Gardiner, that other teams are clamoring over?

So, while it's easy to say if they miss out then big changes are coming, it's a lot harder to actually implement them and improve the club at the same time.
 
RedLeaf said:
I could see a few changes, but seriously...Nonis isn't going to have a fire sale here. Not a chance. And, without trading some future pieces, he's not going to get any real upgrades to the core of this team in one summer.
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Nowhere did I say anything about a fire sale, just that every piece of the organization needs to be looked at and all possible changes need to be considered, and making the playoffs probably prevents that from happening on the scale that it needs to be done. I don't expect huge sweeping changes, but, there definitely needs to be more done that changing the backup goalie and the 3rd defence pairing. All levels of the team need some sort of alteration - from the front office down to the ECHL/AHL roster fillers.
 
RedLeaf said:
I could see a few changes, but seriously...Nonis isn't going to have a fire sale here. Not a chance. And, without trading some future pieces, he's not going to get any real upgrades to the core of this team in one summer.

Carlyle probably gets replaced...but with whom?

Franson and Reimer get dealt, but what is out there that will improve this club without sacrificing a piece of the future?

And let's be realistic, what players do the Leafs have, besides a few untouchables like Reilly and Gardiner, that other teams are clamoring over?

So, while it's easy to say if they miss out then big changes are coming, it's a lot harder to actually implement them and improve the club at the same time.
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I think they need to look no further than the farm system for most of our needs.

D'Amigo, Holland, Ashton, Leivo, MacWilliam should all be up with the big club playing legitimate roles - ie: no 3 minutes per night 4th line BS.  They're all good enough to play a full 4 lines with the more effective line(s) getting the most playing time on any given night.

A couple others could probably come too (Hartikainen, Holzer, Smithson, Abbot, Granberg, Brennen, Gauthier, Devane, others?).

Using these cheaper, young players better affords us the ability to make meaningful signings/trades as required, as well as keep the players important to us (Kulemin?).

Throw in a relatively cheap Komarov (say, 2M).  Remove useless (Clarkson) - I'm perfectly willing to take the buyout penalties - this is addition by subtraction.

Change the coach (and, thus, the systems).


Kessel - Bozak - JvR
Leivo - Kadri - Kulemin
Ashton - Holland - D'Amigo
Bodie - Smith? - Komarov
Hartikainen

Phaneuf - Gunnarsson
Reilly - Gleason
Gardiner - MacWilliam
Holzer


*In a perfect world, we'd find a way to upgrade our defense here, too.  Gleason is probably too hard to move, and getting an actual upgrade is difficult - free agency hasn't been nice to us and trades cost important assets...  To be honest, I'm not entirely sure what can be done here and I'm not as familiar with our defensive prospects...
 
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Why are the leafs in 10th and not 8th place? Is it strictly because of games played? Cause the leafs have more wins then Detroit and Washington.
 
Lee-bo said:
Why are the leafs in 10th and not 8th place? Is it strictly because of games played? Cause the leafs have more wins then Detroit and Washington.
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Yes

EDIT:

Here's the tie-breaking procedure:

If two or more clubs are tied in points during the regular season, the standing of the clubs is determined in the following order:

1. The fewer number of games played (i.e., superior points percentage).

2. The greater number of games won, excluding games won in the Shootout. This figure is reflected in the ROW column.

3. The greater number of points earned in games between the tied clubs. If two clubs are tied, and have not played an equal number of home games against each other, points earned in the first game played in the city that had the extra game shall not be included. If more than two clubs are tied, the higher percentage of available points earned in games among those clubs, and not including any "odd" games, shall be used to determine the standing.

4. The greater differential between goals for and against for the entire regular season. NOTE: In standings a victory in a shootout counts as one goal for, while a shootout loss counts as one goal against.
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Lee-bo said:
Why are the leafs in 10th and not 8th place? Is it strictly because of games played? Cause the leafs have more wins then Detroit and Washington.
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Regulation+Overtime wins is the tie breaker when GP is equal.

So they'd be ahead of Washington, but behind Detroit if GP were equal.
 
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