Leafs @ Blues - Feb. 19th, 8:00pm - SNO, TSN 1050

[cabber24]

I didn't catch a second of the game. Damn you Black Outs. How does a guy, living in Northern Ontario, with the Rogers NHL package have games in St. Louis blacked out? It is actually turning me off to the NHL completely.

Was it blacked out on Sportsnet Ontario when you tried to tune in on your cable/satellite provider or was it blacked out in NHL GameCenter (or whatever they are calling that package these days)?

The NHL Game Center black's out local games in Ontario because TSN and Sportnet want your money. I suppose they do own the team. I "cut the cord" and considered Gamecenter until I realized I wouldn't get a lot of Leaf games. I choose to subscribe to streaming TSN and Sportsnet which is cheaper than cable was.

 

[Bates]

Is there any evidence that Babcock is willing to change his strategy in the playoffs? I believe we had after season meeting based on his unwillingness last year.

 

[herman]

I fully trust that Babcock, after 2 straight seasons of sticking with the same lines and publicly talking about needing more depth more depth more depth and more depth, has stubbornly put the lineup in the blender this season every ten games or so just to see which combinations will make you the most angry.

 

[cabber24]

Is there any evidence that Babcock is willing to change his strategy in the playoffs? I believe we had after season meeting based on his unwillingness last year.

Matthews led all Leafs forwards in ice time during last years playoffs but only 17:32 which really isn't that much. Hyman second at 17:09 and Marner third at 17:03.

 

[Stronger Than All]

how do we rate last nights moral victory?

 

[cabber24]

Is there any evidence that Babcock is willing to change his strategy in the playoffs? I believe we had after season meeting based on his unwillingness last year.

Matthews led all Leafs forwards in ice time during last years playoffs but only 17:32 which really isn't that much. Hyman second at 17:09 and Marner third at 17:03.

The 17:32 average ice time in the playoffs, the most for any Leafs forward, ranked 58th in average ice time for all forwards in the playoffs!

So, it looks like the Leafs playoff strategy will continue to be to spread skill and play somewhat equally.

 

[Deebo]

The NHL Game Center black's out local games in Ontario because TSN and Sportnet want your money.

NHL Gamecenter blacks out local broadcasts in all markets because local broadcasters pay for local broadcast rights. NHL Gamecenter has always been for out of market games.

I suppose they do own the team.

Owning the team has nothing to do with it, they don't own the Jets or Sens local games are blacked out in those regions too.

If games weren't blacked out on Gamecentre, then there would be no reason for a regional network to buy the rights and invest in producing the broadcasts. If no regional network buys the rights, there would be no broadcasts for Gamecentre to use.

I "cut the cord" and considered Gamecenter until I realized I wouldn't get a lot of Leaf games. I choose to subscribe to streaming TSN and Sportsnet which is cheaper than cable was.

So TSN and Sportsnet still get your money?

 

[Kin]

For what it's worth MLB seems to have sorted it out as my MLB.TV subscription includes Blue Jays game.

 

[L K]

For what it's worth MLB seems to have sorted it out as my MLB.TV subscription includes Blue Jays game.

It's still an issue in the US.  For some reason in Canada the Jays aren't region locked but they have region locking in the US.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

For what it's worth MLB seems to have sorted it out as my MLB.TV subscription includes Blue Jays game.

It's still an issue in the US.  For some reason in Canada the Jays aren't region locked but they have region locking in the US.

I know for the NHL nationally broadcasted games aren't subject to blackouts. Does Sportsnet air Jays game across all of their channels? That'd probably explain that.

 

[bustaheims]

I know for the NHL nationally broadcasted games aren't subject to blackouts. Does Sportsnet air Jays game across all of their channels? That'd probably explain that.

I think Jays games are considered to be national broadcasts, yeah.

 

[herman]

Shame on everyone for not pointing out this low-key heli-celly in the thread when Matthews? goal was upheld.

https://twitter.com/theflintor/status/1098061369633435648

 

[OldTimeHockey]

I didn't catch a second of the game. Damn you Black Outs. How does a guy, living in Northern Ontario, with the Rogers NHL package have games in St. Louis blacked out? It is actually turning me off to the NHL completely.

Was it blacked out on Sportsnet Ontario when you tried to tune in on your cable/satellite provider or was it blacked out in NHL GameCenter (or whatever they are calling that package these days)?

Oh it would of been available on SN Ontario....if I had SN Ontario.

I just think it's a silly game plan by Roger's to punish me by blacking out a game in St. Louis. I get why. They want me to either subscribe to a cable provider, or the Sportsnet package through streaming. That doesn't make me want to do that though. What it does is make me want to find illegal streams. It also makes me choose not to support Rogers for any of their other products.
The package is Rogers NHL Gamecentre. It's great for my brother who's a Bruins fan. He gets all the games. It's great for my neighbour who's a habs fan. Its brutal if you live in the Toronto "region". The only games we get is the Wednesday Night national game, and the HNIC....which is free through the CBC app really.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

I didn't catch a second of the game. Damn you Black Outs. How does a guy, living in Northern Ontario, with the Rogers NHL package have games in St. Louis blacked out? It is actually turning me off to the NHL completely.

Was it blacked out on Sportsnet Ontario when you tried to tune in on your cable/satellite provider or was it blacked out in NHL GameCenter (or whatever they are calling that package these days)?

The NHL Game Center black's out local games in Ontario because TSN and Sportnet want your money. I suppose they do own the team. I "cut the cord" and considered Gamecenter until I realized I wouldn't get a lot of Leaf games. I choose to subscribe to streaming TSN and Sportsnet which is cheaper than cable was.

And alas, they still get your money Jerks

 

[AtomicMapleLeaf]

What is really irritating to me is that I live in Los Alamos, NM. I'm 6 hours from Denver and 7 hours from Phoenix. Both games are blacked out for me. Even when the games are in TO.  I've cut the cord a couple of years ago and only pay for the streaming app on my Apple TV. Before that though, I paid DirecTV for the center ice package, paid for the app, paid extra to get NHL TV, paid extra to get NBC sports, and of course XM Radio. What really pissed off was when I was out of town and couldn't watch a game because it was on NHL network. There was literally no other revenue stream I could send my money. I'm good now though, because of cheap VPN solutions.

 

[herman]

https://twitter.com/billius27/status/1098327069119909902

 

[L K]

It's fair although Tamps has 18 more points and a 40 goal better differential so they can afford to play Kucherov less.    Tampa also doesn't have a 4th line of Brown - Lindholm - Gauthier with 8 goals in 168 combined games.  Hell Matt Martin has 5 goals 12 points.

 

[herman]

It's fair although Tamps has 18 more points and a 40 goal better differential so they can afford to play Kucherov less.    Tampa also doesn't have a 4th line of Brown - Lindholm - Gauthier with 8 goals in 168 combined games.  Hell Matt Martin has 5 goals 12 points.

A lot of Tampa?s goals come on the PP (61/238), 171 at evens.

The Leafs have 33/208 goals on the PP, so there?s your difference right there. We have 172 ev goals. We are literally right there with them and the difference is they get PP opportunities and have cashed them.

 

[Highlander]

when I am in AZ I stream all games through Reddit on my laptop, it works fine and if I was ambitious I would hook it into my TV with an HDMI cable and watch them big screen.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

If games weren't blacked out on Gamecentre, then there would be no reason for a regional network to buy the rights and invest in producing the broadcasts. If no regional network buys the rights, there would be no broadcasts for Gamecentre to use.

I'd buy that if it were anything more than a reason to sell more of their own packages.

Last year, under the same package, the games were not near as tough to get. There were a dozen or so blackouts. Heck at the start of this season, the blackouts only seemed to show up when TSN was broadcasting the game.