Leafs @ Canadiens - Feb. 8th, 7:00pm - CBC, Fan 590

[Guilt Trip]

This is the worst team ever.  No other team in the history of the league struggles in back to backs.  RAAARQWAARRARHQWHWWHWHWHW

You?re veering into straw man territory. It?s not unfair to question why the Leafs are the worst (second worst?) team in the league in the second game of back to backs.

Hutchinson?

Regarding tonight they didn't play badly most of the game but Montreal pressed and Barrie made bad decision that lead to the OT goal. We need some depth scoring.

Add in Spezza on the first goal. Leafs actually gave the Habs their goals.

 

[L K]

This is the worst team ever.  No other team in the history of the league struggles in back to backs.  RAAARQWAARRARHQWHWWHWHWHW

You?re veering into straw man territory. It?s not unfair to question why the Leafs are the worst (second worst?) team in the league in the second game of back to backs.

Instead we should play the "it's random partying that makes them not good" game.

 

[Bender]

This is the worst team ever.  No other team in the history of the league struggles in back to backs.  RAAARQWAARRARHQWHWWHWHWHW

You?re veering into straw man territory. It?s not unfair to question why the Leafs are the worst (second worst?) team in the league in the second game of back to backs.

Instead we should play the "it's random partying that makes them not good" game.

[emoji23]

 

[Guilt Trip]

This is the worst team ever.  No other team in the history of the league struggles in back to backs.  RAAARQWAARRARHQWHWWHWHWHW

You?re veering into straw man territory. It?s not unfair to question why the Leafs are the worst (second worst?) team in the league in the second game of back to backs.

Instead we should play the "it's random partying that makes them not good" game.

How dare they have fun on their time away from work. Selfish kids.

 

[dekedastardly]

Love Campbell's battle. I felt bad for him on the first goal against. This game could have easily gone the other way. Muzzin was incredible and others played some great defense. Rasmus Sandin is a hell of a player already. Would have been great if they could have closed them out, but I'm happy with a point.

 

[Strangelove]

This is the worst team ever.  No other team in the history of the league struggles in back to backs.  RAAARQWAARRARHQWHWWHWHWHW

You?re veering into straw man territory. It?s not unfair to question why the Leafs are the worst (second worst?) team in the league in the second game of back to backs.

Instead we should play the "it's random partying that makes them not good" game.

I don?t know why it?s difficult to believe that partying has an impact on conditioning. This isn?t exactly conspiracy theory territory. I don?t begrudge then having fun but the third period meltdowns (after good starts) are a little concerning.

 

[Bender]

This is the worst team ever.  No other team in the history of the league struggles in back to backs.  RAAARQWAARRARHQWHWWHWHWHW

You?re veering into straw man territory. It?s not unfair to question why the Leafs are the worst (second worst?) team in the league in the second game of back to backs.

Instead we should play the "it's random partying that makes them not good" game.

I don?t know why it?s difficult to believe that partying has an impact on conditioning. This isn?t exactly conspiracy theory territory. I don?t begrudge then having fun but the third period meltdowns (after good starts) are a little concerning.

I think you missed the point of his post

 

[ZBBM]

I wonder if the illness that?s keeping Nylander out of the lineup is effecting more of the roster. Would explain some of why they look so sluggish in the 3rd periods of late.

Yes, I don't agree with Strangelove here.  Fatigue is fatigue no matter when it happens in the season.  They plainly looked out of gas the whole third period.  Not surprising since the whole game the first 2 was up and down.

They are a young team and have had plenty of time off in the past month. Completely running out of gas on back to backs has been a problem all year, which speaks to certain players? commitment to conditioning. For example, Hyman seemed as fast as ever, while other better paid players did not.

I also happen to know that a few of our young stars go out partying most weekends. Hyman isn?t one of them. My sense is that?s what Keefe was alluding to when he called the Leafs an immature team.

Without asking you to divulge a bunch of detail, I'd be interested to learn, in general, how you know that.

 

[ZBBM]

My main takeaway from this game is that we got a glimpse of what a regular Sandin/Liljegren pairing might turn into.  This is the first game where I really kept an eye on Liljegren, and aside from some inevitable goofs (all minor) I was impressed.  I am hoping he turns into a Stralman or a Hjalmersson type of guy.

Sandin made some really good defensive plays.  You may have noticed that I'm rather excited about him.

 

[Guilt Trip]

My main takeaway from this game is that we got a glimpse of what a regular Sandin/Liljegren pairing might turn into.  This is the first game where I really kept an eye on Liljegren, and aside from some inevitable goofs (all minor) I was impressed.  I am hoping he turns into a Stralman or a Hjalmersson type of guy.

Sandin made some really good defensive plays.  You may have noticed that I'm rather excited about him.

I'm excited for them both but it's controlled. I know they're going to make mistakes. I do like that they're taking their time with them. Like I've always said before Liljegren plays a non flashy game and gets the job done. He's improved every game so far. It was also nice to see Sandin out killing penalties and out for PP2. That's huge. I hope Dubas can grab us a right handed Muzz to play with Rielly.

 

[Strangelove]

This is the worst team ever.  No other team in the history of the league struggles in back to backs.  RAAARQWAARRARHQWHWWHWHWHW

You?re veering into straw man territory. It?s not unfair to question why the Leafs are the worst (second worst?) team in the league in the second game of back to backs.

Instead we should play the "it's random partying that makes them not good" game.

I don?t know why it?s difficult to believe that partying has an impact on conditioning. This isn?t exactly conspiracy theory territory. I don?t begrudge then having fun but the third period meltdowns (after good starts) are a little concerning.

I think you missed the point of his post

Did I?

 

[Strangelove]

I wonder if the illness that?s keeping Nylander out of the lineup is effecting more of the roster. Would explain some of why they look so sluggish in the 3rd periods of late.

Yes, I don't agree with Strangelove here.  Fatigue is fatigue no matter when it happens in the season.  They plainly looked out of gas the whole third period.  Not surprising since the whole game the first 2 was up and down.

They are a young team and have had plenty of time off in the past month. Completely running out of gas on back to backs has been a problem all year, which speaks to certain players? commitment to conditioning. For example, Hyman seemed as fast as ever, while other better paid players did not.

I also happen to know that a few of our young stars go out partying most weekends. Hyman isn?t one of them. My sense is that?s what Keefe was alluding to when he called the Leafs an immature team.

Without asking you to divulge a bunch of detail, I'd be interested to learn, in general, how you know that.

My friend's sister dates a player, off and on.

 

[Highlander]

My son works at a very popular golf course and without mentioning the players name (a Leaf), watched him knock back 8 Gin and Tonics (doubles for sure).  Now it was summertime and everyone has fun, but that some fierce booze consumption for a man in his 20's.
I think partying may be a problem for sure..Look at Tyler Sequin, who seems to be out of the news now.
The main problem is alcohol is not good for any body, but it tends to shorten careers that could have been longer.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

This is the worst team ever.  No other team in the history of the league struggles in back to backs.  RAAARQWAARRARHQWHWWHWHWHW

You?re veering into straw man territory. It?s not unfair to question why the Leafs are the worst (second worst?) team in the league in the second game of back to backs.

Instead we should play the "it's random partying that makes them not good" game.

I don?t know why it?s difficult to believe that partying has an impact on conditioning. This isn?t exactly conspiracy theory territory. I don?t begrudge then having fun but the third period meltdowns (after good starts) are a little concerning.

LOL. You act like hockey players having fun and partying is new.

 

[Highlander]

No the partying was probably worse in decades past. Look at some of the legendary sports boozers like Mantle, Bobbie Hull and Ruth.  All loved to party.  I have no problem with alcohol as part of someones life, my only point is if it affecting your ability to play 100% then that is a problem. It will with excess shorten careers and can ruin lives.  That is my main concern.
Heck we are not Spartans, no team is going to emulate the 300.   

 

[OldTimeHockey]

No the partying was probably worse in decades past. Look at some of the legendary sports boozers like Mantle, Bobbie Hull and Ruth.  All loved to party.  I have no problem with alcohol as part of someones life, my only point is if it affecting your ability to play 100% then that is a problem. It will with excess shorten careers and can ruin lives.  That is my main concern.
Heck we are not Spartans, no team is going to emulate the 300. 

Yes, but the thought that "partying" is why they are sluggish in the 2nd of a back to back is grasping at straws.

They had 2 shots on net for a good chunk of the third Friday night vs the Ducks. Is this because of partying? Did someone's aunt call with bad news about jimmy on the farm? Were they abducted by aliens that implanted programming that allowed them to only play 40 minutes of the game? Is it because of Donald Trump?

Knowing a guy who's friend has a sister that dates hockey players is not reason to make sh*t up on a message board and try to pass it off as intelligent analysis of what's actually happening on the ice. Seeing a hockey player have 8 drinks, in the summer, is also not reason to try to pass that off as some reason players don't have energy in the 3rd period of a game being played in February.

We all know a guy, who knows a guy, who knows a guy.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

This is the worst team ever.  No other team in the history of the league struggles in back to backs.  RAAARQWAARRARHQWHWWHWHWHW

You?re veering into straw man territory. It?s not unfair to question why the Leafs are the worst (second worst?) team in the league in the second game of back to backs.

Hutchinson?

Regarding tonight they didn't play badly most of the game but Montreal pressed and Barrie made bad decision that lead to the OT goal. We need some depth scoring.

I actually think Matthews has to shoulder some of the blame on that last goal. Kovalchuk was his man on that back check. He left him unguarded. The puck ended up in the net.

 

[herman]

Did our new backup just help us secure 3 out of 4 points in back to back starts on the tail end of a 4 in 6 playing his first two games after being traded across the country while the team in front was down its starting goaltender and top RW and top LD?

 

[Frank E]

Did our new backup just help us secure 3 out of 4 points in back to back starts on the tail end of a 4 in 6 playing his first two games after being traded across the country while the team in front was down its starting goaltender and top RW and top LD?

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[azzurri63]

Teams a joke. No clue how to put teams away.
Like Xmas all year round with this team keep on giving.

On one hand I somewhat agree because this is what happened recently but they're 21-2-2 when leading after 2. For comparison the Bruins are 18-1-6. Their real problem is how often they've trailed after 2 and how few times they've actually come back to win or tie.

I wouldn't get caught up in the stats too much.
Detroit is 7-3-1 when leading after 2.
LA Kings are 12-1-1.

My biggest beef is giving points away by not finishing teams in regulation.

I would like to know of all the Leafs victories when leading after 2 how many were won in OT by the Leafs after squandering some sort of lead.

It's the points they give away by not finishing games in regulation.

Leafs would have won last night in OT everyone would of said hey we won awesome grabbed the 2 points but I don't look at it that way.

Can't keep gifting points to anyone and especially divisional opponents.

You can use the excuse of the B2B that hurt us but as soon as they scored and sat back I knew it was going to be trouble.
They controlled the game, limited Mtl opportunities, held them to 12 shots after 2 I believe and played a good road game until the goal and then sat back.