Leafs Get Andersen from Ducks

[leafsjunkie]

Yeah, I'll reserve any kind of judgement of Andersen until he has had time to get into game shape. He only played 2 preseason games, then last nights....

I don't understand any kind of love affair with Reimer. He was just 'ok' and often injured.

I'm glad we didn't resign him.  He is not a solution (hence why he is a back-up and no team wanted him as a starter....)

 

[Capital Leaf]

Well stats tell us Reimer has a better save percentage and was on a worse team so you know he had higher quality of shots against him. 

For arguments sake even if they are equal this deal makes no sense.
We could have used those picks or if we were going to trade them why not trade them for a defenseman instead?

Plus the extra money we could have saved for the Cap.

Anyways I hope Andersen pans out.  He is getting paid like an All Star and we gave up a 1st and 2nd.  That's a high price

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Well stats tell us Reimer has a better save percentage and was on a worse team so you know he had higher quality of shots against him. Last year Reimer was 9th in the league in save % while Andersen was 28th.

http://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/seasons/last-2-nhl-seasons-goalies-stats.html

For arguments sake even if they are equal this deal makes no sense.
We could have used those picks or if we were going to trade them why not trade them for a defenseman instead?

Plus the extra money we could have saved for the Cap.

Anyways I hope Andersen pans out.  He is getting paid like an All Star and we gave up a 1st and 2nd.  That's a high price

He has the 17th highest cap hit among goaltenders.

EDIT: Er, 18th as Nik says.

 

[Kin]

Well stats tell us Reimer has a better save percentage and was on a worse team so you know he had higher quality of shots against him. 

Last year, sure. But the year before that Andersen was better. And the year before that. Andersen's got the higher career SV%.

For arguments sake even if they are equal this deal makes no sense.
We could have used those picks or if we were going to trade them why not trade them for a defenseman instead?

Plus the extra money we could have saved for the Cap.

Anyways I hope Andersen pans out.  He is getting paid like an All Star and we gave up a 1st and 2nd.  That's a high price

I'm not the guy to defend the trade but again I think this is incorrect. He's not getting paid like an all-star. He's got the 18th highest AAV of any goalie in the league. So he's getting paid like a middle of the pack starter.

 

[Coco-puffs]

Well stats tell us Reimer has a better save percentage and was on a worse team so you know he had higher quality of shots against him. 

Andersen has a .918 career Save Percentage.  Reimer has a .914 career Save Percentage.  Yes, Reimer was on a worse team, hence his career GAA being 2.79 vs 2.33 for Andersen.  I bet if you looked at the "quality" of shots, the difference would be much smaller than you think.

 

[Capital Leaf]

Well stats tell us Reimer has a better save percentage and was on a worse team so you know he had higher quality of shots against him. 

Last year, sure. But the year before that Andersen was better. And the year before that. Andersen's got the higher career SV%.

For arguments sake even if they are equal this deal makes no sense.
We could have used those picks or if we were going to trade them why not trade them for a defenseman instead?

Plus the extra money we could have saved for the Cap.

Anyways I hope Andersen pans out.  He is getting paid like an All Star and we gave up a 1st and 2nd.  That's a high price

I'm not the guy to defend the trade but again I think this is incorrect. He's not getting paid like an all-star. He's got the 18th highest AAV of any goalie in the league. So he's getting paid like a middle of the pack starter.

Correct those stats were off because I think the website included last night's games
These are the stats for last year

http://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/seasons/2015-16-nhl-goalies-stats.html

So Reimer was 9th and Andersen was 20th but not a big difference in save % from .922 and .919. But remember the team Reimer played in front of and what Andersen played in front of......big difference!

Even if for arguments sake we said they are about the same..... we gave up 2 high picks and spent $5m instead of $3.4 m per season.  Doesn't sit well

 

[leafsjunkie]

Well stats tell us Reimer has a better save percentage and was on a worse team so you know he had higher quality of shots against him. 

For arguments sake even if they are equal this deal makes no sense.
We could have used those picks or if we were going to trade them why not trade them for a defenseman instead?

Plus the extra money we could have saved for the Cap.

Anyways I hope Andersen pans out.  He is getting paid like an All Star and we gave up a 1st and 2nd.  That's a high price

I wasn't defending the trade, I'm not sure that's what the Leafs needed to do at this point.

I just don't think Reimer is the answer and obviously every team in the league, agreed.

I hope Andersen does well and provides stable goaltending. I think the Leafs options were limited and they identified a guy they believe, improves that position.

So we can all just wait and see how it pans out, instead of freaking out after game 1.

I don't think Matthew's is going to score 328 goals this year, so we can't judge one game...

 

[Bill_Berg]

I don't think Matthew's is going to score 328 goals this year, so we can't judge one game...

I think you're putting too much on him if you think he's going to score more than 328 goals this year.

 

[leafsjunkie]

I don't think Matthew's is going to score 328 goals this year, so we can't judge one game...

I think you're putting too much on him if you think he's going to score more than 328 goals this year.

What? Did you read, what I wrote?

 

[Zee]

It'll be funny if Enroth has a better season than Andersen and he's only getting 750K.

 

[Capital Leaf]

Well stats tell us Reimer has a better save percentage and was on a worse team so you know he had higher quality of shots against him. 

For arguments sake even if they are equal this deal makes no sense.
We could have used those picks or if we were going to trade them why not trade them for a defenseman instead?

Plus the extra money we could have saved for the Cap.

Anyways I hope Andersen pans out.  He is getting paid like an All Star and we gave up a 1st and 2nd.  That's a high price

I wasn't defending the trade, I'm not sure that's what the Leafs needed to do at this point.

I just don't think Reimer is the answer and obviously every team in the league, agreed.

I hope Andersen does well and provides stable goaltending. I think the Leafs options were limited and they identified a guy they believe, improves that position.

So we can all just wait and see how it pans out, instead of freaking out after game 1.

I don't think Matthew's is going to score 328 goals this year, so we can't judge one game...

Agreed.... but I was against this trade the minute I saw it.  It wasn't just after last night, I know its just one game but I never liked this trade.
They paid a high price for a goalie when they could have signed one as a FA  for cheaper that was just as good and not had to give up any draft picks.

 

[Bill_Berg]

I don't think Matthew's is going to score 328 goals this year, so we can't judge one game...

I think you're putting too much on him if you think he's going to score more than 328 goals this year.

What? Did you read, what I wrote?

Sorry let me rephrase:

I think you're putting too much on him if you think he's going to score more than 328 goals this year.    Or maybe  8) would have done it.

It was a joke.

 

[Tigger]

I wasn't a big fan of the trade, though I get the feeling that the brass needed to move on from the goaltending they had last year, still, I don't think Freddy was that bad last night. The only goal I thought was bad on his part was the third one. He could've squeezed the glove a little on the opener, sure, the second one was deflected, Turris tying goal was pretty good and I'm pretty sure the OT goal was deflected as well.

 

[herman]

I see Andersen as a bridge contract. Not fully proven, with a chance to be either a steal or a burden.

While I wasn't a fan of the trade circumstances, the player is on the higher side of average.

The 5 years gives us a window for prospects like Sparks and Woll and whoever we pick next summer to grow and hit the ice on fire when we are in full Cup drives.

 

[Frank E]

I'm going to give him 10 games before I tell everyone just how bad he is.

 

[McGarnagle]

I'm going to give him 10 games before I tell everyone just how bad he is.

That's ridiculous. I'm going to base everything on the first shot of the next warmup.

 

[jonlleafs]

I hope this is the opposite of Bernier where he came in and looked decent then floundered.  Also I remember Belfour came in and was booed at when he first started because everyone thought he was too old or was a bad replacement for Cujo.  I'd give him 20 games before I pass judgement.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

I hope this is the opposite of Bernier where he came in and looked decent then floundered.  Also I remember Belfour came in and was booed at when he first started because everyone thought he was too old or was a bad replacement for Cujo.  I'd give him 20 games before I pass judgement.

Belfour gave up a goal on the first shot in more than one preseason game, IIRC, and then had a shutout in his debut.

 

[mr grieves]

I see Andersen as a bridge contract. Not fully proven, with a chance to be either a steal or a burden.

While I wasn't a fan of the trade circumstances, the player is on the higher side of average.

The 5 years gives us a window for prospects like Sparks and Woll and whoever we pick next summer to grow and hit the ice on fire when we are in full Cup drives.

I think it's too long and too rich to be a "bridge contract." It's what you pay a goaltender if he repeats a couple good seasons platooning on a good team with a promising season as a starter.

 

[Kin]

Even if for arguments sake we said they are about the same..... we gave up 2 high picks and spent $5m instead of $3.4 m per season.  Doesn't sit well

But the whole argument is whether or not they're the same. People who were in favour of the trade would say Andersen's better career numbers, his age and durability would make him a better long term bet to be a good starter.