maplesyrup
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Bullfrog said:
Maybe Underhill can do something with that. Who knows? I'm not banking on it though.
Luke Schenn: One more chance?
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Maybe Underhill can do something with that. Who knows? I'm not banking on it though.
Sarge said:
A guy at work made a good/fair point. He's 22 years old, and has heard pretty much every offseason of his career that his skating needs to get better and it never has.
It's not to say it can't... but realistically he probably is pretty close to what he is. It can get better no doubt but I don't think it would be a significant leap in ability.
bustaheims
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Erndog said:
But, at the same time, he's 22 years old and, because of the way he plays, likely feels he needs to get stronger, so he probably spends too much time focusing on upper body strength instead of his core and his legs. Also, he's 22 years old - he hasn't exactly been part of an age group that typically does what they are told.
maplesyrup
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but again, isn't this Philly's problem now? 
bustaheims
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Sarge said:but again, isn't this Philly's problem now?
The more I think about that trade, the less I like it for either team. JvR is damaged goods, which concerns me from the Leafs' POV, and, for Philly, it depends entirely on whether or not Pronger is healthy for next season. If he is, then they have 5 defencemen signed to significant deals, as well as Gustafsson (who has looked pretty decent in these playoffs) and Lilja. There's just no room for Schenn unless they make another deal (which, obviously, with the Flyers is a possibility, but, still).
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bustaheims said:
Even if he doesn't become fleet of foot, he can still be a very good d-man. His problem is his feet can't make up for mistakes made with his head. when he played well for good stretches it wasn't as if he was faster during those times. He just played smarter, and within his limitations.
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Tigger said:
As do I. It's certainly a good choice to give him at least one season under Carlyle. I saw a real spark in Schenn when Carlyle came on and his game got better. He'll always hit hard and often, so why not let him work on his game. Well, at least until he's 23? ???
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Are the Leafs "willing to deal" Schenn for Pittsburgh's Jordan Staal?
According to the Pittsburg News-Tribune's Jish Yohe...
Yohe looked at other possible destinations, including the Oilers, Toronto Maple Leafs and Minnesota Wild and what those clubs could offer up to land Staal.
He claimed the Maple Leafs ?are willing to deal? defenseman Luke Schenn, while young center Nazem Kadri might be of interest for the Penguins.
Yet another media rumour.
Source: THN
According to the Pittsburg News-Tribune's Jish Yohe...
Yohe looked at other possible destinations, including the Oilers, Toronto Maple Leafs and Minnesota Wild and what those clubs could offer up to land Staal.
He claimed the Maple Leafs ?are willing to deal? defenseman Luke Schenn, while young center Nazem Kadri might be of interest for the Penguins.
Yet another media rumour.
Source: THN
hockeyfan1 said:
While I don't want to give up on Schenn, I would deal him for Staal. I think it helps both sides in this trade. I would have to think hard about deal Kadri though. We really haven't seen enough of him at the NHL level to determine if he has NHL star potential. Last thing I'd want to do is hand the Penguins a star player that we've groomed for all this time.
maplesyrup
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Newbury said:
An extended Staal? Yeah, I'd do that. If I was granted permission to talk to his agent and if I felt there was a very good chance I could sign him as some point down the road, I still might.
L K
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Newbury said:
I would consider it, but two top-7 picks less than 5 years from being drafted is a lot to give up, regardless of their current performance.
The bottom line for me (regardless of PPG pace this year) is that he has a career high of 50 points. 50 points + strong defensive play is a great asset, but I'm not convinced that it makes him a great #1 center. A good one perhaps, but a cup calibre team's top center? Not sure.
All that can change though if you guarantee an extension I guess (and it would depend on the contract amount).
I don't know...almost Identical stats to grabovski in 12 less games played (and 4 years younger). I think hes a beast waiting to happen. plus he'd be between kessel and lupul, you think his stats might go up? plus he can kill penalties and is not afraid to go to the net\crash the boards.
I'd do kadri and schenn for sure! this would still leave us with pieces to trade for a goalie.
I'd do kadri and schenn for sure! this would still leave us with pieces to trade for a goalie.
I shutter when words like anchor and shutdown are used in the same sentence as Schenn. Trade him, had enough of watching him for 4 years with little to no improvement, slow, dump mistakes, absolutely no shot. A new system is not going to change his ability, only mask his shortcomings.....let some other team work with him another 4 years to try and get his play up to where a 1st round draft pick should be.....tired of losing with a bunch of "hopefulls".....
Etiam Vultus
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It is fascinating to read the comments about Schenn's future after each season.
After years one and three, he was an untouchable who would be a key contributor in the Leafs resurgence.
After years two and four, he was seen as a bust.
At the end of his career, he will likely be considered somewhere in between the two extremes. Thus, he should be considered a tradeable commodity, but not one that is given away for very little in return.
After years one and three, he was an untouchable who would be a key contributor in the Leafs resurgence.
After years two and four, he was seen as a bust.
At the end of his career, he will likely be considered somewhere in between the two extremes. Thus, he should be considered a tradeable commodity, but not one that is given away for very little in return.
dappleganger
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Etiam Vultus said:
The name Jay McKee springs to mind.