Marleau traded to Carolina
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hockeyfan1
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Oh well, goodbye Patrick Marleau. As a Leafs fan, I appreciate your time here.
I approve of the trade even though losing a first rounder is never good. Dubas did what he had to do, and the Leafs right now are in a much better (cap) position.
I approve of the trade even though losing a first rounder is never good. Dubas did what he had to do, and the Leafs right now are in a much better (cap) position.
hockeyfan1
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Auston says it best:
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disco
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herman said:
What a classy dude. His example to Auston and Mitch for two years was valuable for their young careers. Also, that's why you treat people right. It can lead to a great testimonial from a respected person. People take notice that your organization is run well. Toronto has definitely changed it's rep. Full credit to Shanny, Babs, Kyle and Lou for that.
Good luck Patty!
This is one of the two moves needed to get the Leafs half way the Leafs roster in shape for the start of the season. The projected cap space of $13.5 million plus Horton's LTR of $5.3 million gives the Leafs $18.8 million to work with to sign the pending RFA forwards, Marner ($10-$10.5) and Kappy and Johnny about $3-4 mil each. That would give the Leafs 12 forwards, 5 d (if you consider Holl part of the equation?, not me, Holl is replaced by Rosen) and Freddy locked up.
That still leaves a back-up goalie needed (assuming Sparks is gone), and some defence and bottom line holes to fill. Moving Zaitsev might be part of that solution. Personally, I'd sooner see them keep Kadri and Brown and move Nylander, a bigger salary dump and would probably command a solid top 4 right handed d-man. To me that makes the most sense. That still leaves, Marner, Kapanen and Brown on the right side, with Bracco knocking on the door. I think the Leafs need to add some grit not subtract (Kadri, Brown).
That still leaves a back-up goalie needed (assuming Sparks is gone), and some defence and bottom line holes to fill. Moving Zaitsev might be part of that solution. Personally, I'd sooner see them keep Kadri and Brown and move Nylander, a bigger salary dump and would probably command a solid top 4 right handed d-man. To me that makes the most sense. That still leaves, Marner, Kapanen and Brown on the right side, with Bracco knocking on the door. I think the Leafs need to add some grit not subtract (Kadri, Brown).
disco
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Dangle makes a good point. Cap space is a big asset in this era. There were only a handful of teams that could take the whole $6.25-million and Carolina was one of them. For a team currently in their window to have that completely disappear is huge. Hence the pick in the high twenties.
Bender said:
I'd rather have given up Bracco, but I doubt that was on the table.
Kin
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Bender said:
In fairness, we don't know how late a pick it'll be and Dubas including the top 10 protection is smart. The team is still thin enough that an injury to Freddy or even just a run of bad luck could easily have the pick be anywhere from 10-20.
I'm happy the Leafs were able to do it but like everything else it feels like they paid a relatively high price. Especially considering Marleau, while not great or anything, wasn't some sort of embarrassing train wreck on the ice.
Bender said:
My very casual opinion on him is that I don't really see him being much better than someone like Tyler Ennis was last season. So somewhat valuable but still not difficult to replace if you look hard enough.
bustaheims
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CarltonTheBear said:
Yeah. If the option was Bracco or a 1st, I think I give up Bracco. However, the reports are that it was Kapanen/Johnsson or a 1st, and, in that case, it's an easy choice. Based on where the team expects to be drafting, you're hoping to get a guy as good as either of them, and not likely a full-time NHL player for a couple years after being drafts.
Bender said:
I'm just worried too much of Bracco's success with the Marlies this past season was on the powerplay. 39 of his 79 points were on the PP (49%). Just for comparisons sake, Johnsson's last season with the Marlies 18 of his 54 points were on the PP (33%). At 5-on-5 his scoring numbers are only slightly ahead of guys like Marchment, Engvall, Brooks. And IIRC his 5-on-5 possession numbers (as tracked by Jeff Veillette at least) weren't particularly flattering. So I'm not super confident about how much value he can add at even-strength, and I'm sceptical about whether his powerplay abilities will translate against NHL coaches and PKers.