Matt Martin traded to the Islanders

[Coco-puffs]

Who's Leivo going to sit with in the booth?

Carrick, probably.

 

[Bullfrog]

This is fantastic. Nothing against Martin, but it's so encouraging to see the Leafs get rid of these superfluous types that don't drive offense.

This is going to be a fun team to watch.

 

[rdowdall]

This is fantastic. Nothing against Martin, but it's so encouraging to see the Leafs get rid of these superfluous types that don't drive offense.

This is going to be a fun team to watch.

You know, it's funny, but now that they have Tavares and Matthews, "these superfluous types that don't drive offense" are Hyman and Brown.

 

[Zee]

Arthur Staple confirms that there's no salary retention.

Dubas executive of the year already

 

[Bullfrog]

This is fantastic. Nothing against Martin, but it's so encouraging to see the Leafs get rid of these superfluous types that don't drive offense.

This is going to be a fun team to watch.

You know, it's funny, but now that they have Tavares and Matthews, "these superfluous types that don't drive offense" are Hyman and Brown.

I actually meant to say "that don't contribute to offense." But you're right, and that's a significant upgrade.

 

[hockeyfan1]

Wise trade.  Lou likes us.

 

[Heroic Shrimp]

https://twitter.com/mikeFAIL/status/1014224980358250496

Leo Komarov - 3
Andrew Ladd - 5.5
Cal Clutterbuck - 3.5
Casey Cizikas - 3.35
Valterri Filppula - 2.75
Matt Martin - 2.5

Needs more Fraser McLaren and Colton Orr.

 

[ZBBM]

Martin is actually a decent player for a less high-powered team, but not at Lou's contracted salary.  As mentioned, if it helps them tank it actually is a decent move by Lou.  Brings back a popular player ... who can try to drive JT's head through the sideboards on Feb 28.

 

[Guru Tugginmypuddah]

What I love is, Dubas systematically dismantling and taking away all of Babcock's favourite toys. 

**giggles** 

 

[Highlander]

Wise trade.  Lou likes us.

I think Jedi mind master Dubas, has taken over Lou's ageing brain and programmed him to take the Islanders job and then self destruct. Sort of like the tape in the old Mission Impossible.

 

[Guilt Trip]

What I love is, Dubas systematically dismantling and taking away all of Babcock's favourite toys. 

**giggles** 

This is what Ray Ferraro said late last year when the debate was Johnsson or Leo. Ray said it's up to the next GM to take away Mike's toys as it forces him to play your guys. I suspect that Leivo may actually get a chance this year. I think he's an NHLer but Babs had too many options. I wouldn't be opposed to seeing Leivo with Lindholm and Brown as a 4th line. I think Johnsson and Kaps will play with Kadri. Going to be interesting for sure!

 

[OldTimeHockey]

What I love is, Dubas systematically dismantling and taking away all of Babcock's favourite toys. 

**giggles** 

This is what Ray Ferraro said late last year when the debate was Johnsson or Leo. Ray said it's up to the next GM to take away Mike's toys as it forces him to play your guys. I suspect that Leivo may actually get a chance this year. I think he's an NHLer but Babs had too many options. I wouldn't be opposed to seeing Leivo with Lindholm and Brown as a 4th line. I think Johnsson and Kaps will play with Kadri. Going to be interesting for sure!

I'm still of the opinion that after watching Leivo's junior here's in Sudbury that he is too weak of a skater to be a full time NHLer.

 

[herman]

What I love is, Dubas systematically dismantling and taking away all of Babcock's favourite toys. 

**giggles** 

This is what Ray Ferraro said late last year when the debate was Johnsson or Leo. Ray said it's up to the next GM to take away Mike's toys as it forces him to play your guys. I suspect that Leivo may actually get a chance this year. I think he's an NHLer but Babs had too many options. I wouldn't be opposed to seeing Leivo with Lindholm and Brown as a 4th line. I think Johnsson and Kaps will play with Kadri. Going to be interesting for sure!

I'm still of the opinion that after watching Leivo's junior here's in Sudbury that he is too weak of a skater to be a full time NHLer.

6-8 minutes a night isn't full time

 

[Zee]

What I love is, Dubas systematically dismantling and taking away all of Babcock's favourite toys. 

**giggles** 

This is what Ray Ferraro said late last year when the debate was Johnsson or Leo. Ray said it's up to the next GM to take away Mike's toys as it forces him to play your guys. I suspect that Leivo may actually get a chance this year. I think he's an NHLer but Babs had too many options. I wouldn't be opposed to seeing Leivo with Lindholm and Brown as a 4th line. I think Johnsson and Kaps will play with Kadri. Going to be interesting for sure!

I'm still of the opinion that after watching Leivo's junior here's in Sudbury that he is too weak of a skater to be a full time NHLer.

Could of sworn I heard a rumour Leafs were shopping Leivo at the same time that I heard they were shopping Martin

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

What I love is, Dubas systematically dismantling and taking away all of Babcock's favourite toys. 

**giggles** 

This is what Ray Ferraro said late last year when the debate was Johnsson or Leo. Ray said it's up to the next GM to take away Mike's toys as it forces him to play your guys. I suspect that Leivo may actually get a chance this year. I think he's an NHLer but Babs had too many options. I wouldn't be opposed to seeing Leivo with Lindholm and Brown as a 4th line. I think Johnsson and Kaps will play with Kadri. Going to be interesting for sure!

I'm still of the opinion that after watching Leivo's junior here's in Sudbury that he is too weak of a skater to be a full time NHLer.

I appreciate your perspective boss, I know you coach and can see these things, but he?s had several years of Barb Underhill tutelage since then. Having watched him on the Marlies a fair bit, I think he skates as well or better than most NHL fourth liners.

 

[Guilt Trip]

What I love is, Dubas systematically dismantling and taking away all of Babcock's favourite toys. 

**giggles** 

This is what Ray Ferraro said late last year when the debate was Johnsson or Leo. Ray said it's up to the next GM to take away Mike's toys as it forces him to play your guys. I suspect that Leivo may actually get a chance this year. I think he's an NHLer but Babs had too many options. I wouldn't be opposed to seeing Leivo with Lindholm and Brown as a 4th line. I think Johnsson and Kaps will play with Kadri. Going to be interesting for sure!

I'm still of the opinion that after watching Leivo's junior here's in Sudbury that he is too weak of a skater to be a full time NHLer.

I appreciate your perspective boss, I know you coach and can see these things, but he?s had several years of Barb Underhill tutelage since then. Having watched him on the Marlies a fair bit, I think he skates as well or better than most NHL fourth liners.

He doesn't seem out of place on the Leafs when he plays either. Will never be known for speed but can get up and down the rink.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

https://twitter.com/CrzyCanucklehed/status/1014339733034586113

haha perfect.

 

[mr grieves]

I appreciate your perspective boss, I know you coach and can see these things, but he?s had several years of Barb Underhill tutelage since then. Having watched him on the Marlies a fair bit, I think he skates as well or better than most NHL fourth liners.

Yeah, and even if he still doesn't look fast, the few times we saw him last year he was able to close in quickly, to retrieve pucks pretty well, and, as I recall, to make a play. 

 

[bustaheims]

I appreciate your perspective boss, I know you coach and can see these things, but he?s had several years of Barb Underhill tutelage since then. Having watched him on the Marlies a fair bit, I think he skates as well or better than most NHL fourth liners.

Agreed. He's no speedster, but he's an NHL calibre skater.

 

[Hobbes]

I appreciate your perspective boss, I know you coach and can see these things, but he?s had several years of Barb Underhill tutelage since then. Having watched him on the Marlies a fair bit, I think he skates as well or better than most NHL fourth liners.

Yeah, and even if he still doesn't look fast, the few times we saw him last year he was able to close in quickly, to retrieve pucks pretty well, and, as I recall, to make a play.

He also had some nights/shifts where he looked utterly disengaged and listless...what Babcock would call "inconsistent compete." It seemed to me that he got beaten out in the line-up by not being as consistently relentless and hungry as some of the other guys he had to beat out for his spot. For the spot he was vying for in the lineup his hands/scoring were almost secondary...he had to spend most of his time in the O-zone. In his admittedly small sample size in 2017-18 he took a big step back in this department.